>> A couple of problems, first this is a 2008 model, old news. Second how
>> come most Canadian truck owners own a Ford?
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> I'm not trying to bash the 150. After all, I'd love to get my hands on an
> IDI 7.3L F250 crew cab 4x4 or a Excursion equipped with the 7.3L engine.
You have got to be kidding, Toyota can hardly give the Tundra away. They
even closed the Tundra plant in Texas for three months and dealers are still
holding 120 day supply.
Toyota was also dumping Tundra's a the Manheim Auctions for as low as
$25,000 the last three months of 2008.
Toyotas total share of the light truck market for 2008 was less than 5% and
the Titon less than 2%
>>> A couple of problems, first this is a 2008 model, old news. Second how
>>> come most Canadian truck owners own a Ford?
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> Although they are not in the top 3, Nissan and Toyota seem to be gaining
> share in the last few years.
>> I'm not trying to bash the 150. After all, I'd love to get my hands on
>> an IDI 7.3L F250 crew cab 4x4 or a Excursion equipped with the 7.3L
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> around here, especially the diesel versions. But in Saskatchewan GM
> does seem to do #2.
Interesting. I rarely see a Dodge truck around Los Angeles. Mostly Chevy
and/or Ford.
Here is the 2009 July top ten pickup truck sales:
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/08/july-2009-top-10-truck-sales.html
Ford is number one with the F-series at 215,959 units sold YTD.
Chevy is number two with 177,56 units.
However, if you combine the Silverado and the Sierra (remember, they're
the same truck with different trims) you get 238,098 units sold.
This is - of course - much less than last year at teh same time, when GM
had sold around 500,000 units and Ford around 400,000 units. =8-O
> Me, I love the F350 Lariat long box. But couldn't see the price spread
> for a F350 over the F150 5.4L gas Lariat which I bought. I did take a
> GM Silverado and Avalanche out but couldn't see the value.
I love my Avalanche. It gives me the flexibility of a "small" truck (like
a 150 or 1500) yet can have the bed of a long truck as needed. I just
picked up a loft bed for my younger son last weekend. I went down to the
guy's house, loaded the bed - including the 8' posts - into the truck and
drove home with the tailgate closed.
OTOH, this weekend, I was attending a soccer referee clinic and had the
bed locked up with my ice chest, soccer stuff and my mother's computer
(which I was taking home to clean). I then swung by, picked up the two
boys, threw bikes in the back and headed over to mother's and the park.
I have just under 60,000 miles on the truck in a little under three
years. We recently drove up to Oregon on a mini-vacation. 1500 miles in
ten days in the truck with the two boys, my wife and the dog.
> Although they are not in the top 3, Nissan and Toyota seem to be gaining
> share in the last few years.
They want that market. They've built a plant in Texas I think and are
doing all they can to build loyalty.
However, I did test the new Tundra. I was not impressed. Though it is
physically larger on the outside, the inside still felt cramped.
(I do wish my truck had a power rear window like the Tundra does!)
Nissan has a great product in the Pathfinder/QX56. Nice truck. I'd driven
one a few times and am very impressed.
Now if only my Avalanche can get 45 MPG!!

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Canuck57 - 24 Aug 2009 22:07 GMT
>>> I'm not trying to bash the 150. After all, I'd love to get my hands on
>>> an IDI 7.3L F250 crew cab 4x4 or a Excursion equipped with the 7.3L
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>
> Now if only my Avalanche can get 45 MPG!!
I don't worry about the mpg. In my situation I have only a need for one
multipurpose vehicle. One that can go 500km+ between standard fuel ups, 4x4
and warm for winter, can haul a boat at 2800lbs. If I bought a $60,000 Volt
(likely CAD price) and I depreciate it over 12 years... that is $5000 per
year. My truck doesn't come close to burning that much gas.
So to buy strictly on fuel efficient just makes about as much sense as
burning money in the firepit. An Obama sucker play.
So the wife and I share one vehicle saving thousands in maintenance,
depreciation, aggrivation and insurance. Plus, I like our time together
when she drops me off or are together. Many people are doing this to reduce
autos consumption of money that really doesn't add value to our lives.
PerfectReign - 25 Aug 2009 18:36 GMT
>> Now if only my Avalanche can get 45 MPG!!
>
> I don't worry about the mpg. In my situation I have only a need for one
> multipurpose vehicle. One that can go 500km+ between standard fuel ups,
> 4x4 and warm for winter,
You mean, you don't run your air conditioning in the winter? :P
> can haul a boat at 2800lbs. If I bought a
> $60,000 Volt (likely CAD price) and I depreciate it over 12 years...
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> So to buy strictly on fuel efficient just makes about as much sense as
> burning money in the firepit. An Obama sucker play.
I tend to agree. Though I would *LOVE* to tell the Saudi and Venezuelan
governments to take a hike, I can't see the economics of it...yet.
> So the wife and I share one vehicle saving thousands in maintenance,
> depreciation, aggrivation and insurance. Plus, I like our time together
> when she drops me off or are together. Many people are doing this to
> reduce autos consumption of money that really doesn't add value to our
> lives.
Now that is a valid point.
I wish I could do that. My wife - when she works - is the opposite
direction from me. Also, she's usually home running the rugrats around to
various functions when they're not in school.
Unfortunately - with the crap public transit system in LA - I can't take
the train or bus to work in a reasonable timeframe. Though I work only
twenty miles from home and there's a train station within four miles of
my house as well as across the street from work, it would take well over
two hours to actually *take* said trains each way. (I have a co-worker
who can ride his bike almost the same distance in an hour. He doesn't
wear a suit, though.)
Also, I'm often taking the truck to locaitons outside of my office. Just
last week, I drove over to Orange County (right near Disneyland) and then
will be driving to San Diego (about 100 miles) next week.

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