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GM's Silverado named best truck in Canada

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80 Knight - 21 Aug 2009 05:58 GMT
You sure are behind the news today JimmyBoy.

GM's Silverado named best truck in Canada
The Chevrolet Silverado hit the jackpot this week as it was named the 2008
Truck of the Year by the Automobile Journalists Association of Canada
(AJAC).

The recognition results from recent back-to-back driving evaluations of 59
new vehicles at the annual AJAC Test Fest evaluation -- the foundation of
the Canadian Car of the Year Awards program. Over 70 of Canada's automotive
journalists judged this year's competition, which aims to provide consumers
with sound, comparative information on new vehicles.

"GM's goal is to provide customers with cars and trucks that offer leading
designs and fuel-efficient technologies, with eye-catching style and an
overall level of perceived quality typical of more expensive vehicles. This
award tells us we're delivering on that goal," said Marc Comeau,
vice-president of sales service and marketing for GM of Canada.

The Chevrolet Silverado extends GM's decades-long legacy of sales leadership
in full-size pickups, with a segment-best combination of fuel efficiency and
capability that has seen sales continue to climb since its Canadian launch.

The Silverado's leading platform supports a smoother ride and confident
handling. A lineup of powerful small-block V-8 engines complements the
stronger chassis to deliver the light-duty segment's highest-rated towing
capacity (4,763 kg) and horsepower (367 h.p.), with a maximum payload
capacity of 980 kilograms.

There are three cab styles -- regular, extended and crew cab -- and three
cargo box lengths. The pickup is available in three trim levels: WT, LT and
LTZ and is available in 2WD and 4WD.

Chevrolet will up the ante again in 2008 with a Silverado hybrid pickup that
will deliver up to 25 per cent improved combined fuel economy. On sale later
this year, it will be the first hybrid produced in Canada and will be built
at GM's Oshawa plant.

http://www.canada.com/news/Silverado+named+best+truck+Canada/1793686/story.html
Canuck57 - 21 Aug 2009 13:30 GMT
A couple of problems, first this is a 2008 model, old news.  Second how come
most Canadian truck owners own a Ford?

I took most of them for test drives in 2005, and bought a Ford F150.

> You sure are behind the news today JimmyBoy.
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> http://www.canada.com/news/Silverado+named+best+truck+Canada/1793686/story.html
PerfectReign - 23 Aug 2009 16:21 GMT
> A couple of problems, first this is a 2008 model, old news.  Second how
> come most Canadian truck owners own a Ford?
>
> I took most of them for test drives in 2005, and bought a Ford F150.

...that's because GM is stupid in splitting the truck business between
the Silverado and the near-twin Sierra. They count as two different
trucks.

Ford does not do this, so the F150 shows up as the #1 in sales.

If you historically combine the Sierra and Silverado you find they are
often even with and ahead of the F150.

I'm not trying to bash the 150. After all, I'd love to get my hands on an
IDI 7.3L F250 crew cab 4x4 or a Excursion equipped with the 7.3L engine.

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Canuck57 - 23 Aug 2009 20:23 GMT
>> A couple of problems, first this is a 2008 model, old news.  Second how
>> come most Canadian truck owners own a Ford?
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> I'm not trying to bash the 150. After all, I'd love to get my hands on an
> IDI 7.3L F250 crew cab 4x4 or a Excursion equipped with the 7.3L engine.

Where  live, to kill time when traveling my wife and I will count them on
the highway or road.  F150/250/350 always seems to be the #1.  And I just
count Chevy/GM as one group also.  As even RAMs are more popular around
here, especially the diesel versions.  But in Saskatchewan GM does seem to
do #2.

Me, I love the F350 Lariat long box.  But couldn't see the price spread for
a F350 over  the F150 5.4L gas Lariat which I bought.  I did take a GM
Silverado and Avalanche out but couldn't see the value.

Although they are not in the top 3, Nissan and Toyota seem to be gaining
share in the last few years.
Mike - 24 Aug 2009 20:17 GMT
You have got to be kidding, Toyota can hardly give the Tundra away.   They
even closed the Tundra plant in Texas for three months and dealers are still
holding 120 day supply.

Toyota was also dumping Tundra's a the Manheim Auctions for as low as
$25,000 the last three months of 2008.

Toyotas total share of the light truck market for 2008 was less than 5% and
the Titon less than 2%

>>> A couple of problems, first this is a 2008 model, old news.  Second how
>>> come most Canadian truck owners own a Ford?
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> Although they are not in the top 3, Nissan and Toyota seem to be gaining
> share in the last few years.
PerfectReign - 24 Aug 2009 21:48 GMT
>> I'm not trying to bash the 150. After all, I'd love to get my hands on
>> an IDI 7.3L F250 crew cab 4x4 or a Excursion equipped with the 7.3L
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> around here, especially the diesel versions.  But in Saskatchewan GM
> does seem to do #2.

Interesting. I rarely see a Dodge truck around Los Angeles. Mostly Chevy
and/or Ford.

Here is the 2009 July top ten pickup truck sales:

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/08/july-2009-top-10-truck-sales.html

Ford is number one with the F-series at 215,959 units sold YTD.

Chevy is number two with 177,56 units.

However, if you combine the Silverado and the Sierra (remember, they're
the same truck with different trims) you get 238,098 units sold.

This is - of course - much less than last year at teh same time, when GM
had sold around 500,000 units and Ford around 400,000 units.  =8-O

> Me, I love the F350 Lariat long box.  But couldn't see the price spread
> for a F350 over  the F150 5.4L gas Lariat which I bought.  I did take a
> GM Silverado and Avalanche out but couldn't see the value.

I love my Avalanche. It gives me the flexibility of a "small" truck (like
a 150 or 1500) yet can have the bed of a long truck as needed. I just
picked up a loft bed for my younger son last weekend. I went down to the
guy's house, loaded the bed - including the 8' posts - into the truck and
drove home with the tailgate closed.

OTOH, this weekend, I was attending a soccer referee clinic and had the
bed locked up with my ice chest, soccer stuff and my mother's computer
(which I was taking home to clean).    I then swung by, picked up the two
boys, threw bikes in the back and headed over to mother's and the park.

I have just under 60,000 miles on the truck in a little under three
years. We recently drove up to Oregon on a mini-vacation. 1500 miles in
ten days in the truck with the two boys, my wife and the dog.

> Although they are not in the top 3, Nissan and Toyota seem to be gaining
> share in the last few years.

They want that market. They've built a plant in Texas I think and are
doing all they can to build loyalty.

However, I did test the new Tundra. I was not impressed. Though it is
physically larger on the outside, the inside still felt cramped.

(I do wish my truck had a power rear window like the Tundra does!)

Nissan has a great product in the Pathfinder/QX56. Nice truck. I'd driven
one a few times and am very impressed.

Now if only my Avalanche can get 45 MPG!!

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Canuck57 - 24 Aug 2009 22:07 GMT
>>> I'm not trying to bash the 150. After all, I'd love to get my hands on
>>> an IDI 7.3L F250 crew cab 4x4 or a Excursion equipped with the 7.3L
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>
> Now if only my Avalanche can get 45 MPG!!

I don't worry about the mpg.  In my situation I have only a need for one
multipurpose vehicle.  One that can go 500km+ between standard fuel ups, 4x4
and warm for winter, can haul a boat at 2800lbs.  If I bought a $60,000 Volt
(likely CAD price) and I depreciate it over 12 years... that is $5000 per
year.  My truck doesn't come close to burning that much gas.

So to buy strictly on fuel efficient just makes about as much sense as
burning money in the firepit.  An Obama sucker play.

So the wife and I share one vehicle saving thousands in maintenance,
depreciation, aggrivation and insurance.  Plus, I like our time together
when she drops me off or are together.  Many people are doing this to reduce
autos consumption of money that really doesn't add value to our lives.
PerfectReign - 25 Aug 2009 18:36 GMT
>> Now if only my Avalanche can get 45 MPG!!
>
> I don't worry about the mpg.  In my situation I have only a need for one
> multipurpose vehicle.  One that can go 500km+ between standard fuel ups,
> 4x4 and warm for winter,

You mean, you don't run your air conditioning in the winter?  :P

> can haul a boat at 2800lbs.  If I bought a
> $60,000 Volt (likely CAD price) and I depreciate it over 12 years...
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> So to buy strictly on fuel efficient just makes about as much sense as
> burning money in the firepit.  An Obama sucker play.

I tend to agree. Though I would *LOVE* to tell the Saudi and Venezuelan
governments to take a hike, I can't see the economics of it...yet.

> So the wife and I share one vehicle saving thousands in maintenance,
> depreciation, aggrivation and insurance.  Plus, I like our time together
> when she drops me off or are together.  Many people are doing this to
> reduce autos consumption of money that really doesn't add value to our
> lives.

Now that is a valid point.

I wish I could do that. My wife - when she works - is the opposite
direction from me. Also, she's usually home running the rugrats around to
various functions when they're not in school.

Unfortunately - with the crap public transit system in LA - I can't take
the train or bus to work in a reasonable timeframe. Though I work only
twenty miles from home and there's a train station within four miles of
my house as well as across the street from work, it would take well over
two hours to actually *take* said trains each way. (I have a co-worker
who can ride his bike almost the same distance in an hour. He doesn't
wear a suit, though.)

Also, I'm often taking the truck to locaitons outside of my office. Just
last week, I drove over to Orange County (right near Disneyland) and then
will be driving to San Diego (about 100 miles) next week.

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Mike - 23 Aug 2009 21:08 GMT
If GM  combined ALL of its car brands they would be number one as well.
However name plates are nameplates.

Toyota captured the number one single model CAR brand a few years ago by
renaming the "Solara" the "Camry Solara."

If  one is comparing LIGHT trucks, the F150 as a single brand has been
number one in sales for thirty two years and the "F" Series is number one in
total light and heavy duty trucks, not GM.

When one combined total annual sales of car and trucks however GM has been,
and still is today, number one sales in the US.

>> A couple of problems, first this is a 2008 model, old news.  Second how
>> come most Canadian truck owners own a Ford?
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> I'm not trying to bash the 150. After all, I'd love to get my hands on an
> IDI 7.3L F250 crew cab 4x4 or a Excursion equipped with the 7.3L engine.
 
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