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Car Forum / GMC Cars / January 2005

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1995 3.4L DOHC PCM (was: Cylinder No.5 not firing)

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Steve Mackie - 24 Jan 2005 22:50 GMT
So I found out why cylinder number 5 wasn't firing and I temporarily fixed
by soldering a new leg onto the number 5 injector driver transistor. I need
a permanent solution. Electronic stores can't seem to cross reference the
number, junk yards are telling me $100 weather the PCM works or not and the
dealership won't sell units that have been replaced. I have a local garage
keeping an eye out for one, I just have to pay the $10 they get for the
core, but that could take a while.

What can I do? Anyone know of a suitable replacement?

9707
T(arrow pointing down with line under it)R9502  <---- I'm assuming this is
the date code
A     3M

Steve
Steve Mackie - 25 Jan 2005 00:33 GMT
Through some internet research I just found out that this transistor I'm
looking for is a Metal-Oxide, Single-Gate transistor. Does this help anyone
help me?

Steve

> So I found out why cylinder number 5 wasn't firing and I temporarily fixed
> by soldering a new leg onto the number 5 injector driver transistor. I
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> the date code
> A     3M
Steve Mackie - 25 Jan 2005 00:59 GMT
>> 9707
>> T(arrow pointing down with line under it)R9502  <---- I'm assuming this
>> is the date code
>> A     3M

More research has shown me that the "T(arrow pointing down with line under
it)R" is actually "I(diode symbol)R", standing for International Rectifier,
the manufacturer. Now I'm a little closer.

Steve
Steve Mackie - 25 Jan 2005 01:31 GMT
> More research has shown me that the "T(arrow pointing down with line under
> it)R" is actually "I(diode symbol)R", standing for International
> Rectifier, the manufacturer. Now I'm a little closer.

Just got off the phone with IR, the part number is not in their system. They
told me it must be a custom OEM component, figures. He gave me the tech
support line phone number for Delco-Remy, I hope they are the people that
made this PCM. Anyone know?

Steve
Bob Urz - 29 Jan 2005 15:50 GMT
>>More research has shown me that the "T(arrow pointing down with line under
>>it)R" is actually "I(diode symbol)R", standing for International
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>
> Steve

Post this over in sci.electronics.repair, and sci.electronics.
What you have is a house numbered transistor. there will be no
listed cross. What you need to to is ID if its a PNP, NPN or a Mosfet.
Then what type of package its in. A transistor substitution manual will
be of help trying to ID the package type.   From that information,
someone can try to make a guestimate cross. If this drives the coil
directly, it will be a higher current device. I am not sure in your case
if it does.

A DVM ohm meter with a diode check function will be of help in the ID.

Bob
Steve Mackie - 29 Jan 2005 20:15 GMT
> Post this over in sci.electronics.repair, and sci.electronics.
> What you have is a house numbered transistor. there will be no
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>
> A DVM ohm meter with a diode check function will be of help in the ID.

Thanks for the advice. I have determined that it is an N-Channel MOSFET in a
TO220 case.

Steve
Bob Urz - 30 Jan 2005 14:28 GMT
>>Post this over in sci.electronics.repair, and sci.electronics.
>>What you have is a house numbered transistor. there will be no
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>
> Steve

Maybe something like a IRFZ44 then? They are common in car stereo amps
for power supply switchers.
Steve Mackie - 30 Jan 2005 19:20 GMT
>> Thanks for the advice. I have determined that it is an N-Channel MOSFET
>> in a TO220 case.
>>
> Maybe something like a IRFZ44 then? They are common in car stereo amps for
> power supply switchers.

What about an IRF3707? That is the one that I selected before we started
this conversation.
http://ec.irf.com/v6/en/US/adirect/ir?cmd=catProductDetailFrame&productID=IRF3707:

Steve
Bob Urz - 30 Jan 2005 23:52 GMT
>>>Thanks for the advice. I have determined that it is an N-Channel MOSFET
>>>in a TO220 case.
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>
> Steve

You probably looked at these pages then:

http://www.irf.com/product-info/auto/ignition.html

http://www.irf.com/product-info/auto/fuelinjector.html

Bob
Steve Mackie - 31 Jan 2005 00:59 GMT
>>>Maybe something like a IRFZ44 then? They are common in car stereo amps
>>>for power supply switchers.
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>
> http://www.irf.com/product-info/auto/fuelinjector.html

No I haven't seen those. Never saw that page on the IR website. Thanks. How
do I know for sure which one is best for me? If I find a good replacement I
will replace all 6 drivers. If I just measure the resistance of my injector
coils and then select one that way?

Steve
Steve Mackie - 31 Jan 2005 01:11 GMT
Nevermind, there are only 2 to choose from apparently. The IRLZ44N and the
IRLZ44NV, and it appears the IRLZ44NV doesn't exist, so there is only one
choice.

Steve

>>>>Maybe something like a IRFZ44 then? They are common in car stereo amps
>>>>for power supply switchers.
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> replacement I will replace all 6 drivers. If I just measure the resistance
> of my injector coils and then select one that way?
 
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