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Car Forum / GMC Cars / January 2005

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acctforjunk@yahoo.com - 28 Jan 2005 03:03 GMT
Hi, If someone has a Carfax account, could you lookup
1GCDK14K5JE108227?
Thanks.
James C. Reeves - 30 Jan 2005 03:43 GMT
> Hi, If someone has a Carfax account, could you lookup
> 1GCDK14K5JE108227?
> Thanks.

Didn't your read the other thread.  Now everyone is going to make a key to
your car!
MelvinGibson@mailcity.com - 30 Jan 2005 17:41 GMT
That is a good example of WHY simply knowing the VIN will not get
one a key.  You guys that think you can are welcomed to try then
get back to us    LOL

mike hunt

> > Hi, If someone has a Carfax account, could you lookup
> > 1GCDK14K5JE108227?
> > Thanks.
>
> Didn't your read the other thread.  Now everyone is going to make a key to
> your car!
James C. Reeves - 30 Jan 2005 19:59 GMT
> That is a good example of WHY simply knowing the VIN will not get
> one a key.  You guys that think you can are welcomed to try then
> get back to us    LOL
>
> mike hunt

Hopefully you're right...that there is a process in place to keep the bad
guys from getting keys to your car.   But I will say this...take it haw you
want.

A couple of years ago my wife had her purse stolen along with the car keys
to two of the three cars we own.  Since her ID had our address, our cars
were "sitting ducks" parked in the driveway.  So, our insurance company
instructed to have the locks rekeyed.  Chrysler then rekeyed the locks and I
was told by the dealer service advisor that the Chrysler database was also
updated with the new key/security codes for our cars should we ever need
keys made in the future.  So, that sounds like it can be done (not that I
have ever tried it).

Now, about 10-12 years ago, I left a 1989 Caravan in for service, but forgot
to leave the key.  When I got to work, I realized my mistake and called the
service advisor and told her I forgot to leave the key.  She told me that
they already discovered that and had made a new one from the VIN.  When I
went to pick it up, sure enough, they had made a key (charged me $6.00 for
it though!).  So apparently this capability has been around for over a
decade.  I'm surprised that you never knew about it.
BigJohnson@mailcity.com - 30 Jan 2005 21:56 GMT
They obviously made the key from the key code they had on record,
pretty basic stuff.  

The fact remains one can not steal a vehicle by simply knowing
the VIN and going to a dealership and obtaining a key as the
original poster suggest.  

mike hunt

Mike wrote:

> <MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:41FD3E75.EE1F5554@mailcity.com...
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> >> piece of data to any unique number, be it a key code or what color the
> >> buyers eyes are (if they wanted to).
James C. Reeves - 31 Jan 2005 00:18 GMT
> They obviously made the key from the key code they had on record,
> pretty basic stuff.

BINGO!  Now you've got it!

And that record you refer to has all information about the car...including
the VIN#, me as owner, the color, what service it's had, what recalls have
been performed (or not), etc. etc.  Surely you don't believe that the dealer
goes to the trouble of keeping an entirely *different* set of records just
to keep track of the key code?  Or, do you?

> The fact remains one can not steal a vehicle by simply knowing
> the VIN and going to a dealership and obtaining a key as the
> original poster suggest.

Well clearly the dealer CAN generate a key if they need to.  I've seen it
done.  Now, how easy would it be for someone other than me or the wife to
obtain a copy is a separate question.  It probably would not be "easy" since
the procedures at the dealers are to request the ID of the person (which is
also cross referenced to the VIN# record in their database) to verify that
the person requesting the key is, in fact, the owner.  Possible ways around
that is if...

 1.  ...the employee doesn't follow procedure (and doesn't
         check for ID).  This happens more often than anyone
         would admit, I'd bet!
 2.  ...someone is working "on the inside".  This probably
         happens more often than we would like as well.
acctforjunk@yahoo.com - 31 Jan 2005 03:10 GMT
> > Hi, If someone has a Carfax account, could you lookup
> > 1GCDK14K5JE108227?
> > Thanks.
>
> Didn't your read the other thread.  Now everyone is going to make a key to
> your car!

I didn't buy it.  Even if you had a key, the engine runs so bad you
probably couldn't get off the lot with it.
Harry Face - 30 Jan 2005 22:22 GMT
Don't post VIn Numbers, maybe somebody else will decide to buy the car
out from under you.

H
acctforjunk@yahoo.com - 31 Jan 2005 03:09 GMT
> Don't post VIn Numbers, maybe somebody else will decide to buy the car
> out from under you.
>
> H

Two questions:

1. How do you expect to find where the vehicle is located by knowing
only the VIN?

2. Do you want this truck that I posted the VIN for?  Your welcome to
it.  It turns out to be a piece of junk.
Phillip Schmid - 31 Jan 2005 05:44 GMT
> Two questions:
>
> 1. How do you expect to find where the vehicle is located by knowing
> only the VIN?

When you register/renew registration (on) a car (well, at least here in
Wisconsin) it gets recorded in what city and with how many miles and some
more stuff.
 
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