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Car Forum / GMC Cars / August 2005

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Safe to drive 99 Grand Am????

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Keyser Soze - 19 Aug 2005 17:28 GMT
We have a 99 Pontiac Grand Am with 99K miles and it has been using coolant
for about a month now.

Adding coolant only seems to have prolonged the inevitable.
Now it used 1/2 gallon for the last 30 miles and the service engine light
has come on.
The car also is running poorly. It is missing badly.
I want to take it to AutoZone to get a diagnostics. Is it  safe to drive?
Any idea why it is now missing?
The oil is clean and exhaust appears OK.
Sharon K.Cooke - 19 Aug 2005 18:12 GMT
> We have a 99 Pontiac Grand Am with 99K miles and it has been using coolant
> for about a month now.
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> Any idea why it is now missing?
> The oil is clean and exhaust appears OK.

Blown head gasket.
E  Perry - 19 Aug 2005 21:00 GMT
Look around the thermostat Housing and see of there is water there.

If so change the thermostat Gasket and add stop leek to Engine

If no water there probably intake manifold gasket,

>> We have a 99 Pontiac Grand Am with 99K miles and it has been using
>> coolant
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>
> Blown head gasket.
Lanze - 23 Aug 2005 13:24 GMT
yes head gasket

>> We have a 99 Pontiac Grand Am with 99K miles and it has been using
>> coolant
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Blown head gasket.
Keyser Soze - 19 Aug 2005 18:15 GMT
> We have a 99 Pontiac Grand Am with 99K miles and it has been using coolant
> for about a month now.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Any idea why it is now missing?
> The oil is clean and exhaust appears OK.

I should mention the car has a 3.4 liter V6 which is known for intake
exhaust gasket problems.
Shep - 19 Aug 2005 18:50 GMT
Forget the code, where is the coolant going? If this is a 3.1 or 3.4, the
intake manifold gaskets are known to be a problerm, if that coolant is
getting intop the engine, stop driving it asap.
> We have a 99 Pontiac Grand Am with 99K miles and it has been using coolant
> for about a month now.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Any idea why it is now missing?
> The oil is clean and exhaust appears OK.
Keyser Soze - 19 Aug 2005 20:23 GMT
> Forget the code, where is the coolant going? If this is a 3.1 or 3.4, the
> intake manifold gaskets are known to be a problerm, if that coolant is
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It's a 3.4. The coolant appears to be exiting outside of the engine.
Researching the 3.4 and intake gasket problems suggests that coolant
entering into into a cylinder from a faulty gasket is nearly impossible. Oil
and exhaust appear clean.
Shep - 19 Aug 2005 20:59 GMT
So you see coolant on the engine, where? Pressure test it and see where it
is coming from. You made it sound like the coolant is disappearing, with no
external trace?

>> Forget the code, where is the coolant going? If this is a 3.1 or 3.4, the
>> intake manifold gaskets are known to be a problerm, if that coolant is
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> entering into into a cylinder from a faulty gasket is nearly impossible.
> Oil and exhaust appear clean.
Al Bundy - 19 Aug 2005 22:36 GMT
Guessing and groping for answers never matches testing and diagnosing.
Where do you suppose that new engine misfire is coming from?
Maybe looking at a plug would help.
The sad news is that in prolonged cases like this where a person
insists on topping off and driving a vehicle with a coolant leak, the
damage often becomes progressive and the repair more complicated. Then
a partial repair is soon followed by subsequent repairs because of a
partial guess diagnosis to begin with.
Woody - 19 Aug 2005 23:27 GMT
You failed to read the posts by people who had the cams freeze and break and
those that had to have the engine replaced. Since you are apparently not a
mechanic take it in and have it fixed. This usually is not a DIY project
unless you have good mechanical skills. If you keep driving it make sure you
carry a cell phone and the number of a towing service....

>> Forget the code, where is the coolant going? If this is a 3.1 or 3.4, the
>> intake manifold gaskets are known to be a problerm, if that coolant is
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> entering into into a cylinder from a faulty gasket is nearly impossible.
> Oil and exhaust appear clean.
Shep - 20 Aug 2005 01:52 GMT
Geez we've all basically said the same thing here, which in fact should have
been unnecessary to begin with!!!
> You failed to read the posts by people who had the cams freeze and break
> and those that had to have the engine replaced. Since you are apparently
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>> entering into into a cylinder from a faulty gasket is nearly impossible.
>> Oil and exhaust appear clean.
Keyser Soze - 20 Aug 2005 11:42 GMT
> You failed to read the posts by people who had the cams freeze and break
> and those that had to have the engine replaced. Since you are apparently
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>> entering into into a cylinder from a faulty gasket is nearly impossible.
>> Oil and exhaust appear clean.

I have read the posts about camshaft damage and was led to believe that the
3.8L engine is prone to that failure. I checked the oil and have not seen
any trace of coolant.


 
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