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1997 Chevy Venture Overheating after 800.00 in repairs

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brpansan - 26 Oct 2005 09:14 GMT
I have a 97 Chevy Venture.  It has been overheating on me. I brough
it to one mechanic who replaced the water pump, radiator hose an
thermostat.  That did not fix it. I brought it somewhere else wher
they rodded out the radiator, changed the thermostat AGAIN, ran som
sort of sealer through it because I had a very very small head gaske
leak.  The van did fine for 3 days and then overheated again. When i
overheats, it does it VERY quickly.  I pull over and pop the hood an
the plastic overflow tank is completely full and the radiator, o
course, is not. Eventually, the van cools off and the water goes bac
to the radiator. I can crank it up again, once it cools off an
sometimes it overheats again, within a minute, and sometimes it doe
not. I can sometimes drive for hours without the needle even going t
the halfway mark, and then there are times I can’t even drive half
mile without the needle pegging out in the red.  Any ideas? I hav
spent over 800.00 so far and am getting very frustrated, not t
mention BROKE
HLS@nospam.nix - 26 Oct 2005 14:59 GMT
The mechanics 'fixed' a lot that wasn't broken, apparently.

A head gasket leak can cause rapid overheating.  Think about it.
Exhaust gases at over a thousand degrees entering the cooling
system designed to work at about 200 degrees.

The head needs to come off, be checked for trueness and cracks,
and the gasket needs to be replaced.
TheSnoMan - 26 Oct 2005 18:44 GMT
> I have a 97 Chevy Venture.  It has been overheating on me. I brought
> it to one mechanic who replaced the water pump, radiator hose and
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> spent over 800.00 so far and am getting very frustrated, not to
> mention BROKE.

It is quite likely that the sealant for your head gasket leak that you
claim you have, plugged up the raditor core. You need a new mechanic.
Water pumps very rarely cause overheating problems, they leak or get
noisy when they go bad.  You might check clutch fan too for proper
operation as it should be running agressively when engine is overheating
unless the raditor core is completely plugged internally and not heating
up the air much that passes through it.

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shiden_kai - 27 Oct 2005 00:54 GMT
> noisy when they go bad.  You might check clutch fan too for proper
> operation as it should be running agressively when engine is
> overheating unless the raditor core is completely plugged internally
> and not heating up the air much that passes through it.

Yes, great idea!  Make sure you check that clutch fan
in THE 1997 CHEVY VENTURE VAN.  You know,
the van that comes with electric cooling fans!

Now, checking their operation might not be a bad
idea.

Ian
HLS@nospam.nix - 27 Oct 2005 13:39 GMT
> Yes, great idea!  Make sure you check that clutch fan
> in THE 1997 CHEVY VENTURE VAN.  You know,
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>
> Ian

One would have assumed that the mechanics that changed out all those parts
would have checked the fan operation, but maybe not.  They were definitely
just parts changers.

I suspect that leaking head gasket will come back to haunt him, however.
shiden_kai - 28 Oct 2005 01:13 GMT
> One would have assumed that the mechanics that changed out all those
> parts would have checked the fan operation, but maybe not.  They were
> definitely just parts changers.
>
> I suspect that leaking head gasket will come back to haunt him,
> however.

Agreed, but it sure would be irritating if you replaced the
head gaskets and still encountered the problem.  All the simple
and obvious things should be checked (not just replaced, like
it appears those other clowns did).

Ian
HLS@nospam.nix - 28 Oct 2005 01:42 GMT
> Agreed, but it sure would be irritating if you replaced the
> head gaskets and still encountered the problem.  All the simple
> and obvious things should be checked (not just replaced, like
> it appears those other clowns did).
>
> Ian

As usual, totally agree.
Steve W. - 27 Oct 2005 04:05 GMT
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> I have a 97 Chevy Venture.  It has been overheating on me. I brought
> it to one mechanic who replaced the water pump, radiator hose and
> thermostat.  That did not fix it. I brought it somewhere else where
> they rodded out the radiator, changed the thermostat AGAIN,

ran some
> sort of sealer through it because I had a very very small head gasket
> leak.  The van did fine for 3 days and then overheated again.

Answered the question yourself in that sentence. ANY head gasket leak
can cause overheating if it allows the combustion gases to enter the
cooling system. If it only leaks to the outside it could still cause a
problem if it allowed air to be drawn into the system wnd that air
doesn't bleed out as the engine warms up. But it sounds like a bad head
gasket.

When it
> overheats, it does it VERY quickly.  I pull over and pop the hood and
> the plastic overflow tank is completely full and the radiator, of
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> spent over 800.00 so far and am getting very frustrated, not to
> mention BROKE.
oldkid - 29 Oct 2005 09:07 GMT
do you know how they determined head gasket leak?exhaust testing?it
isn't so much the temp of the air getting into water system as the
additional pressure it is using to displace the water and disturb the
waterpump circulation due to air pocket.i had a honda with a similar
problem and removed the thermostat and drilled a bleed hole in
it(1/4inch).otherwise it would overflow the waterbottle from a cold
start and overheat. and also replaced the radiator cap spring(flip top
model)with a weaker one(3 pounds) and only have to check the fluid
level and add a quart every 500miles or so.the weaker spring was due to
radiator being plastic and old and prone to cracking with higher
pressure cap.fixed cracks with plumbers putty.total cost  1$(putty).
  you could try removing thermostat and see if that changes
anything.if this is an acceptable fix then drill a hole and put back in
if you live in cold climate for heat).good luck
 
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