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Car Forum / GMC Cars / November 2005

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1988 buick park avenue 3.8 ltr

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daviee - 30 Oct 2005 06:48 GMT
my 88 park avenue stopped running and acts like it might start but doesnt.
any ideas?
Shep - 30 Oct 2005 16:25 GMT
Check for spark, spray carb cleaner into the intake see if it starts, basic
checks.
> my 88 park avenue stopped running and acts like it might start but doesnt.
> any ideas?
HLS@nospam.nix - 30 Oct 2005 16:32 GMT
> my 88 park avenue stopped running and acts like it might start but doesnt.
> any ideas?

Low fuel pressure ?  Commonly caused by failing fuel pump...
Water in gas?
Plugged fuel filter?
Ignition system failure? Timing chain jumped?

Lots of possiblities, so you need to eliminate them, one at the time.
Dont just start replacing crap, willynilly.
daviee - 01 Nov 2005 04:09 GMT
i checked the fuel pump ignition has spark and i was told that this motor
doesnt have a timing chain but gears instead..not sure if this is correct
HLS@nospam.nix - 04 Nov 2005 00:56 GMT
> i checked the fuel pump ignition has spark and i was told that this motor
> doesnt have a timing chain but gears instead..not sure if this is correct

How much fuel pressure did you register?

I show it as having a timing chain, and an internal balance shaft geared
to the camshaft.  Maybe I am off by a couple of years.

If your spark does not come exactly when the cylinder has fuel
charge and compression, it will run roughy or not at all.
oldkid - 31 Oct 2005 02:05 GMT
old car.whats the motor.what's the mileage.if the fuel pump has never
been replaced it seems a prime suspect.squirt  gas directly in air
intake and see if it runs.if no i would suspect ignition modual or
coil.if 3800 could also be timming chain.(high mileage)any recent work
to motor or car..more details mean a better diagnosis.
daviee - 01 Nov 2005 04:16 GMT
i tried spraying carb cleaner into intake...didnt help..it does have
130,000 miles on engine..no recent work done on it and someone said check
the ..ill call it harmonic balancer cause they have a rubber insert and
have a sensor that ...well i forgot but i did check the rubber insert
thing and seems ok..im still lost
Shep - 01 Nov 2005 22:33 GMT
If you really do have spark, then do a compression test.
>i tried spraying carb cleaner into intake...didnt help..it does have
> 130,000 miles on engine..no recent work done on it and someone said check
> the ..ill call it harmonic balancer cause they have a rubber insert and
> have a sensor that ...well i forgot but i did check the rubber insert
> thing and seems ok..im still lost
HLS@nospam.nix - 04 Nov 2005 04:26 GMT
> i tried spraying carb cleaner into intake...didnt help..it does have
> 130,000 miles on engine..no recent work done on it and someone said check
> the ..ill call it harmonic balancer cause they have a rubber insert and
> have a sensor that ...well i forgot but i did check the rubber insert
> thing and seems ok..im still lost

There is sensor in the timing chain cover, which is actuated by a magnet
attached
to the gear.  It is not uncommon for that magnet to fall off, and a code
will be set.
It does not stop the engine from running, in my experience.
 
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