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Car Forum / GMC Cars / November 2005

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1991 Pontiac Grand Am Radiator Fan Problem

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rm502@bellsouth.net - 03 Nov 2005 15:33 GMT
Hello:

I have a 1991 Pontiac Grand Am with a 2.5 liter 4 cylinder engine in my
shop with a radiator fan control problem.  If the air conditioning
compressor is running, the radiator fan runs. If the air conditoner is
switched off, the radiator fan turns off.  The radiator fan does not
run, no matter how hot the coolant gets.  I have already replaced the
temperature sensor, located just below the thermostat housing with a
Borg Warner WT 3081.  When cold, the resitance across the sensor is
almost 2000 ohms. When hot, the resistance across it is about 150 ohms.
The sensor connects to inputs on the ECM module with a black and a
yellow wire.  If I start the engine with the sensor unplugged from the
ECM module, the check engine light comes on. If I start the engine with
the sensor plugged into the ECM module, the check engine light does NOT
come on. The temperature gauge in the dash gives correct readings at
all times. What could be wrong? Also, I have thought about installing a
toggle switch to send power to the fan control relay to turn the fan on
when the Air Conditioning is off, but I can't locate the fan control
relay.  Where is it? I have a full wiring diagram of the car in a Hanes

manual, but still haven't been able to track down the problem.  I can
send a scan of the wiring schematics to anyone who might need to see
them to help me.
Robert McPherson 502) 367-9324 or (502) 298-6997
Woody - 03 Nov 2005 22:20 GMT
Is the car overheating? It sounds to me like it is working correctly. The
fan doesn't run all the time. It only runs when the computer determines it
is needed....

> Hello:
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> them to help me.
> Robert McPherson 502) 367-9324 or (502) 298-6997
rm502@bellsouth.net - 04 Nov 2005 14:06 GMT
Woody:

The fan NEVER runs if the air conditioning is switched off-No matter
how hot the radiator water gets. The only way to get the fan to run is
to leave the air conditioner on all the time, which is a problem, since
the outdoor temperature is now in  the 50s.
HLS@nospam.nix - 04 Nov 2005 15:18 GMT
> Hello:

> manual, but still haven't been able to track down the problem.  I can
> send a scan of the wiring schematics to anyone who might need to see
> them to help me.
> Robert McPherson 502) 367-9324 or (502) 298-6997

It might be helpful to see that schematic.  Can you put it on a website and
post a link to it..  (http://www.tinypic.com/    for example)
 
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