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Car Forum / GMC Cars / December 2005

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radiator restrictor plates in 2004 vortex 4800 sierra p/u

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geezer - 13 Dec 2005 22:23 GMT
anyone ever hear of a radiator that is supposed to have a restrictor plate
not having one?  It's cold outside here in Maine and my truck doesn't warm
up until I get going over 50 mph uphill.  the temp fluctuates so much the
gauge is starting to look like a speedometer!  The dealer changed the
thermostat twice and now wants to replace the radiator.  the service manager
said he remembered reading a service bulletin about this problem.  is this
for real?
=AB Paul =BB - 14 Dec 2005 03:28 GMT
> anyone ever hear of a radiator that is supposed to have a restrictor plate
> not having one?  It's cold outside here in Maine and my truck doesn't warm
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> said he remembered reading a service bulletin about this problem.  is this
> for real?

When I lived up north, I used to put a piece of cardboard in front of the
radiator in several of my vehicles.  The last time I went to Oklahoma for
Christmas I had to put the cardboard in so that we could have heat. 10F.
geezer - 15 Dec 2005 22:51 GMT
to keep all readers up to date: the service department had my truck all day
to replace the radiator they thought might be missing a restrictor plate.
Their words.  They didn't get it done today and decided they didn't need to
replace the radiator, just install an o ring on the thermostat.  Apparently
they factory assemblers left it out and the two times I got the service
center to replace the thermostat they didn't notice.  That makes sense to me
considering the symptoms.  personally I don't wonder why gmc is loosing
market share.  we'll see tomorrow if it works correctly, apparently there
was not a correct o ring in the whole state of maine, according to the gmc
dealer in augusta. ha ha
"« Paul »" <"=?x-user-defined?Q?=AB?= Paul
=?x-user-defined?Q?=BB?="@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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>> anyone ever hear of a radiator that is supposed to have a restrictor
>> plate
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> radiator in several of my vehicles.  The last time I went to Oklahoma for
> Christmas I had to put the cardboard in so that we could have heat. 10F.
=AB Paul =BB - 16 Dec 2005 00:52 GMT
> to keep all readers up to date: the service department had my truck all day
> to replace the radiator they thought might be missing a restrictor plate.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> was not a correct o ring in the whole state of maine, according to the gmc
> dealer in augusta. ha ha

Amazing!  Thanks for the update.  
GM has been using some sort of o-ring for the last 15 years or so.
Stormin Mormon - 17 Dec 2005 00:01 GMT
Hey, I knew an O'Ring. Best telephone operator on the East coast. Beautiful
head of red hair and.....

Can't find an O-ring on the coast? Come on! What happened to flat gaskets?
And call an aftermarket place, probably sell them 99 cents each.

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to keep all readers up to date: the service department had my truck all day
to replace the radiator they thought might be missing a restrictor plate.
Their words.  They didn't get it done today and decided they didn't need to
replace the radiator, just install an o ring on the thermostat.  Apparently
they factory assemblers left it out and the two times I got the service
center to replace the thermostat they didn't notice.  That makes sense to me
considering the symptoms.  personally I don't wonder why gmc is loosing
market share.  we'll see tomorrow if it works correctly, apparently there
was not a correct o ring in the whole state of maine, according to the gmc
dealer in augusta. ha ha
=AB Paul =BB - 17 Dec 2005 03:56 GMT
> Hey, I knew an O'Ring. Best telephone operator on the East coast. Beautiful
> head of red hair and.....
>
> Can't find an O-ring on the coast? Come on! What happened to flat gaskets?
> And call an aftermarket place, probably sell them 99 cents each.

Many GM's use a special slotted O-ring and a flat gasket (like my car).
The O-ring holds the thermo in place.  Without it, the thermo flops
around quite a bit and lets water flow around it.
Those not familiar with GM's (like his dealer mechanics) may not
have realized it needed one.
HLS@nospam.nix - 20 Dec 2005 15:22 GMT
> Those not familiar with GM's (like his dealer mechanics)
may not  have realized it needed one.

Well said.....
sdlomi2 - 24 Dec 2005 06:12 GMT
"« Paul »" <"=?x-user-defined?Q?=AB?= Paul
=?x-user-defined?Q?=BB?="@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:43A38C6E.A2F19331@houston.rr.com...

>> Hey, I knew an O'Ring. Best telephone operator on the East coast.
>> Beautiful
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> around quite a bit and lets water flow around it.
>>snip<<
   First experience we had with this exact situation was on an 88
Bonneville with a 3800 v6.  The t'stat housing was evidently too large and
would allow the t'stat to flop around EVEN with the flat gasket.  We had to
modify an exhaust gasket, for strength, with a diameter slightly smaller
than the t'stat-with-slotted o-ring--this gasket held t'stat in place &
produced adequate heat for 1st time since new, according to the owner.  s
 
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