> On a 12 hour car trip in an '06 Cadillac STS, (which I wasn't
> impressed by) we got REALLY bored and began to ponder:
> How come a lot of the cars have the fuel fill door on the driver's
> side,
Tends to be the newer ones.
>but then some will have it on the passenger side?
Tends to be the older ones.
> And NONE of them have it beneath the license plate anymore, which was
> the best of all.
No, the worst of all.
Too low, splashes out when topping up,
hard on the back bending down to fill
and hit in rear end collisions.
I'd never buy a car with such a stupid fill location.
> Why don't they all have it on the same side? Seriously--routing of
> exhaust or fuel line?
> Since cars are symmetrical from one side to the other, why couldn't
> they always have it on the same side?
??? Perhaps it depends if the designer is left or right handed.
It is best to be on the opposite side from the exhaust, but dual
exhausts defeat that safe design approach.
> Come on, now--I know a whole bunch of you were service station guys
> pumping gas back in the day, as was I, at 17.
> And was never the same since. Thank God.
The passengers side makes sense when in RSD countries you pull up to the
side of the road to fill up.
Makes sense when you run out and fill from a can.
I don't mind that my older car fills from the passenger side, because
that side of the pumps isn't as busy anymore. <:)
Our problem is that my wife's newer car fills from the other side and I
get it confused when pulling into a gas station.
Michael Keefe - 10 Jan 2006 14:29 GMT
On 1/10/06 12:48 AM, in article iHate-448A7B.21484909012006@news.telus.net,
> I don't mind that my older car fills from the passenger side, because
> that side of the pumps isn't as busy anymore. <:)
> Our problem is that my wife's newer car fills from the other side and I
> get it confused when pulling into a gas station.
Every car I've ever owned (17 in all) filled on the drivers side. My wife
has had 2 Dodges and a Nissan, all of which were on the passenger side. Many
feel-like-an-a.s situations over the years. The newest Dead Or Dying Garbage
Emitter has an arrow on the dash telling you which side it's on. Never look
at it till you're parked though.
sdlomi2 - 10 Jan 2006 14:30 GMT
>> On a 12 hour car trip in an '06 Cadillac STS, (which I wasn't
>> impressed by) we got REALLY bored and began to ponder:
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> Our problem is that my wife's newer car fills from the other side and I
> get it confused when pulling into a gas station.
Solution: she fills hers, you fill yours!!! (A shame it won't work in
my household, however.:) ) s
Mike Levy - 10 Jan 2006 23:44 GMT
>> On a 12 hour car trip in an '06 Cadillac STS, (which I wasn't
>> impressed by) we got REALLY bored and began to ponder:
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>>but then some will have it on the passenger side?
>Tends to be the older ones.
Actually, the new G6 is on the passenger side, but my 2006 Grand Prix
is on the driver's side.
>> And NONE of them have it beneath the license plate anymore, which was
>> the best of all.
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>Our problem is that my wife's newer car fills from the other side and I
>get it confused when pulling into a gas station.
> On a 12 hour car trip in an '06 Cadillac STS, (which I wasn't
> impressed by) we got REALLY bored and began to ponder:
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> pumping gas back in the day, as was I, at 17.
> And was never the same since. Thank God.
Most of the passenger side fill cars are European. It seems that in
some countries fuel pumps are sometimes right at the curb and a driver
pulls off to the side of the road to fill up, in which case the fuel
filler needs to be on the passenger side of the vehicle. Think of it
like parallel parking next to a fuel pump. This method is just about
never seen in the US. For US self-serve use it is slightly more
convenient to have the filler close to the driver. Best of all is to
live in New Jersey and not have to pump your own!
Rear fill is very bad for fuel spillage and because it puts the fuel
tank in harm's way in a rear end collision. This is the way nearly all
US made cars used to be, but it has gone away due to better safety
engineering.
John
George Jetson - 10 Jan 2006 17:25 GMT
>> On a 12 hour car trip in an '06 Cadillac STS, (which I wasn't
>> impressed by) we got REALLY bored and began to ponder:
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>
> John
Many moons ago I bought a 1956 Chevrolet Bel Air from a classmate. The
first time I pulled into a gas station it was like an Abbot and Costello
routine. Neither myself or the attendant (this was back in the days when you
ran over an airhose and a little bell inside the station went "ding!" and
the attendant came out, pumped your gas, checked your oil and washed your
windshield), knew where the heck the gas filler was.
There was a little piece of chrome trim in the one taillight assembly you
turned to unlatch the assembly, then the entire tailight assembly hinged out
and the filler was inside the fender behind the one tailight, can't remember
which side though. Darndest thing I ever seen.
Jim
Tim & Linda - 11 Jan 2006 04:13 GMT
I worked at a gas station in the mid 60's. Did the window wash, oil check
and fill it up sir?. If I remember right the fill on the 56 Bel Air was on
the passenger side.
>>> On a 12 hour car trip in an '06 Cadillac STS, (which I wasn't
>>> impressed by) we got REALLY bored and began to ponder:
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>
> Jim
Tim & Linda - 11 Jan 2006 04:17 GMT
Funny story from working at the gas station. Me and a friend worked together
till 11:00 when a older man came in. Around 15 minute before our shift was
over we would move one of our cars to the pump. Never turning the pump on we
would put the hose in the fill up, open the valve and hold the hose above
our head. We would get enough gas to drive most the week.
>I worked at a gas station in the mid 60's. Did the window wash, oil check
>and fill it up sir?. If I remember right the fill on the 56 Bel Air was on
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>> Jim
Tony VE6MVP - 11 Jan 2006 08:03 GMT
>Most of the passenger side fill cars are European. It seems that in
>some countries fuel pumps are sometimes right at the curb and a driver
>pulls off to the side of the road to fill up, in which case the fuel
>filler needs to be on the passenger side of the vehicle. Think of it
>like parallel parking next to a fuel pump. This method is just about
>never seen in the US.
There is one location like that in Canada. Chamberlain, Saskatchewan
where the busy highway between the two largest cities, Saskatoon and
Regina gets squeezed from a four lane to a two lane. Not enough room
between the grain elevators and rail road tracks on one side and the
river valley on the other side.
I think I've seen another such in some real small village of a few
hundred people somewhere in rural Alberta but I sure can't recall it.
Tony
James Goforth - 11 Jan 2006 16:45 GMT
When I said that having the filler neck behind the license plate was
best, I meant from the standpoint of never being on the wrong side of
the pump. I'm sure it's not the safest way.
I remember reading something somewhere that said the majority of cars
smashed were hit on the passenger side quarter panel. It was determined
to be safer to have the gas filler neck on the left than the right.
When it was behind the license plate in the back the filler neck tended
to get damaged from being rear ended - even light bumper taps could
spring the filler neck to crack the seam where it joins the tank.
I thought it was rather unique that GM hid the filler door on some 50's
models. Caddy behind the LR Tailight and the 57 Bel Air's in the end of
the quarter panel behind the chrome trim.
The 68- 70 Dodge Chargers had an odd location of the " top " edge of
the LR 1/4 panel.
And look at the 60's & 70's Corvettes having the filler on top of the
rear - I'll call it the trunklid even thought there was no opening for a
trunk.
When I worked at Amaco in 1984 a dude come in with new Porsche - might
of been a 911? it wasn't the Carera, it had those flip up headlight
modules.,,, anyway there is a rubber flap that you could fold out after
the filler door is opened so it could protect the quarter panel from
knick knicks from the gas nozzle. Well after the guy pulled the gas cap
off the car he didn't realize he was at full serve. I'm ready to run the
nozzle in the opening and the rubber boot around the gas nozzle bumps
his quarter panel before he got the rubber flap unfolded. This guy
almost had a heart attack. I reassured him there was no dent or scratch.
I had to pull the nozzle out so he could check, then he pulled out the
rubber protector flap and told me to be more careful. We never saw that
car or that dude again.
Best one was when Daddy - O was trailering a 20' Renell cabin cruiser in
the early 80's. Pulling in the gas staion to fill the boat up - the
filler hole is 4 feet above your head. One person had to get in the back
of the boat and the hose had to be given to the guy up above. The guy on
the ground operated the pump. hahahaaha.
My cars filler neck locations were:
73 Impala, Behind Lic Plate
68 LeSabre, Behind Lic Plate
78 Olds 88, Behind Lic Plate
91 Bonneville, LR 1/4 panel
89 Z - 24, RR 1/4 panel
05 Park Ave, LR 1/4
Harryface
05 Park Avenue, 33,175
91 Bonneville LE 305,279
> How come a lot of the cars have the fuel fill door on the driver's
> side, but then some will have it on the passenger side?
Don't know, but as somebody who rents lots of cars, it
drives me nuts because I never know where the thing is
and although the choice should be 50-50, I seem to
pick the wrong side about 80 percent of the time.