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Car Forum / GMC Cars / February 2006

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A Toast, To 15 Years Of Pontiac Reliability!

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Harry Face - 03 Feb 2006 22:11 GMT
At some point during the day, Saturday, February 4, 2006 when your out
drinking at the neighborhood pub, restaurant or lounging at home, raise
a glass of you favorite beverage in honor of 91 Bonneville's 15th
Anniversary. The most reliable, trouble free vehicle I ever owned.

Cheer's !

     Harryface    
05 Park Avenue, 34,145
91 Bonneville LE  305,679        


Tim or Linda - 03 Feb 2006 22:33 GMT
I will tip my glass of diet Pepsi for you

> At some point during the day, Saturday, February 4, 2006 when your out
> drinking at the neighborhood pub, restaurant or lounging at home, raise
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> 05 Park Avenue, 34,145
> 91 Bonneville LE  305,679
jcr - 03 Feb 2006 22:44 GMT
Tim or Linda wrote the following on 2/3/2006 5:33 PM:
> I will tip my glass of diet Pepsi for you
>
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>> 05 Park Avenue, 34,145
>> 91 Bonneville LE  305,679

Me too!
John Bailo - 03 Feb 2006 23:28 GMT
And how many 15 year old toyatas, hondas, kias, subarus, nissans and
mazdas do you see on the road?

Here (Kent, WA) I see a lot more Pontiacs...

> At some point during the day, Saturday, February 4, 2006 when your out
> drinking at the neighborhood pub, restaurant or lounging at home, raise
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>
>  
Kent Finnell - 04 Feb 2006 00:44 GMT
> And how many 15 year old toyatas, hondas, kias, subarus, nissans and
> mazdas do you see on the road?

Oh, I see a LOT of 15 year old Toyotas, Hondas, and Nissians here in
Nashville.  I also see a bunch of Buicks like my 1990 Buick Century V6,
which turned 166,666.6 miles when I pulled into the parking lot this
afternoon.  I'm the 3rd owner.

Kias, Subarus, and Mazdas haven't been sold in large numbers and I don't
think that the Kias were imported 15 years ago.

> Here (Kent, WA) I see a lot more Pontiacs...

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Kent Finnell
From the Music City USA

BigBob - 04 Feb 2006 00:57 GMT
harryface@webtv.net (Harry Face) wrote in news:19183-43E3D4FC-34@storefull-
3154.bay.webtv.net:

> At some point during the day, Saturday, February 4, 2006 when your out
> drinking at the neighborhood pub, restaurant or lounging at home, raise
> a glass of you favorite beverage in honor of 91 Bonneville's 15th
> Anniversary. The most reliable, trouble free vehicle I ever owned.

Will do, and ditto!  I have a 92 Olds 98 Regency with 279,000 miles on it
and still going!  The most that has ever gone wrong with it was a MAF
sensor!

Just bought a 92 Park Avenue with 150K on it, hoping it will do the same.

You know, every now and then GM screws up and makes a car that actually
runs well and lasts!

BigBob
Mike Marlow - 04 Feb 2006 13:25 GMT
> harryface@webtv.net (Harry Face) wrote in news:19183-43E3D4FC-34@storefull-
> 3154.bay.webtv.net:
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> and still going!  The most that has ever gone wrong with it was a MAF
> sensor!

Oh come on - no wheel bearings?  Certainly an alternator or two in that
time.  Not that I consider those to be an excessive repair for that kind of
mileage, but I've owned enough GM's that I've taken to high mileage that I
can't imagine one not having required these repairs.  And... I just *know*
that engine is leaking antifreeze.  But even that problem - persistent as it
is over the years of production, can be something that remains at the
nusance level for a very long time... it sometimes never develops to the
level of a real problem.

> Just bought a 92 Park Avenue with 150K on it, hoping it will do the same.

Is it an Ultra?  I kept one up to 250,000 miles.  Simply loved that car.
Wonderful ride, great handling, the supercharged 3.8 was an unbeatable
engine, classic Buick appointments inside - you just can't beat what Buick
does inside a car, and not a bad maintenance record over that time.  Did put
in a wheel bearing or two, crankshaft sensor, crank pulley, and occasionally
put air in the tires.  Admirable in my book.

> You know, every now and then GM screws up and makes a car that actually
> runs well and lasts!

They make a lot that last a long time.  It's just that there are some
problems that they should have addressed years ago instead of foisting them
off on the public.  I think GM's reputation would not have been impacted
nearly as much  if they had simply addressed the intake gasket issue and a
couple of other high-incident failures across their product lines.  The cars
are great in so many respects, but that sometimes gets lost in the blur of
some of these high visibility problems.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

BigBob - 04 Feb 2006 20:00 GMT
> Oh come on - no wheel bearings?  Certainly an alternator or two in
> that time.  Not that I consider those to be an excessive repair for
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> can be something that remains at the nusance level for a very long
> time... it sometimes never develops to the level of a real problem.

OK, I meant by 'most' as in the 'most expensive'  Sure, I have done the
bearings, alternators (probably 8 of those) and brakes and what nots, but
like you say, show me ANY car with that kind of mileage that hasn't.

>> Just bought a 92 Park Avenue with 150K on it, hoping it will do the
>> same.
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> crank pulley, and occasionally put air in the tires.  Admirable in my
> book.

Nope, the fully loaded standard model, but quite nice nonetheless.  A great
deal at $600.  I am surprised to hear that you enjoyed the superharged 3.8
as most folks I know that have it only get about 180K out of that motor.  
Plus, I just prefer a plain old naturally aspirated engine.

> They make a lot that last a long time.  It's just that there are some
> problems that they should have addressed years ago instead of foisting
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> sometimes gets lost in the blur of some of these high visibility
> problems.

AMEN BROTHER!

BigBob
Worthington J. Wilmington - 04 Feb 2006 17:52 GMT
> harryface@webtv.net (Harry Face) wrote in news:19183-43E3D4FC-34@storefull-
> 3154.bay.webtv.net:
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> and still going!  The most that has ever gone wrong with it was a MAF
> sensor!

I took MAF in school.
Dipstick - 04 Feb 2006 01:02 GMT
<<At some point during the day, Saturday, February 4, 2006 when your
out
drinking at the neighborhood pub, restaurant or lounging at home, raise

a glass of you favorite beverage in honor of 91 Bonneville's 15th
Anniversary. The most reliable, trouble free vehicle I ever owned.

Cheer's ! >>>>

Cheers, it is! My 97 40th anniversary edition is nearly halfway there,
mileage-wise. Also very reliable.
HLS@nospam.nix - 04 Feb 2006 01:55 GMT
> At some point during the day, Saturday, February 4, 2006 when your out
> drinking at the neighborhood pub, restaurant or lounging at home, raise
> a glass of you favorite beverage in honor of 91 Bonneville's 15th
> Anniversary. The most reliable, trouble free vehicle I ever owned.

Whiskey for my men and
Beer for my ponies
Steve G. - 04 Feb 2006 01:59 GMT
Congrats, I will toast with an Old Dominion Ale. What was your maintenance
schedule like ? Did you use a dealer, indie, or yourself for the maintenance
and minor repairs?  I have a new car and am strongly considering full indie
service.  However VW recently screwed me on a repair 1,300 after warranty
expired, probably because I did not use dealer service. The problem was very
likely caused by a faulty water pump that caused 2 overheats and 4 dealer
visits to fix.

I tried hard to keep my Taurus for 15 years but 9 1/2 was all it would do
without major surgery. If I did not have kids my name would either be on the
list for the Solstice or a new GTO
> At some point during the day, Saturday, February 4, 2006 when your out
> drinking at the neighborhood pub, restaurant or lounging at home, raise
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> 05 Park Avenue, 34,145
> 91 Bonneville LE  305,679
Harry Face - 04 Feb 2006 06:56 GMT
Steve G.

I've done the all the routine work like brakes, oil changes, tune up,
starters, alternators & water pumps etc. Only had to take it to the
dealer one or two times in 1992 for a Cruise problem and a coil problem.

I have a friend that's a GM mechanic that does the bigger jobs I don't
have the tools or skills for.

A trans shop rebuilt the trans at 192,000 miles in 2001.

     Harryface    
05 Park Avenue, 34,145
91 Bonneville LE  305,679        


sdlomi2 - 07 Feb 2006 02:01 GMT
> Steve G.
>
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> 05 Park Avenue, 34,145
> 91 Bonneville LE  305,679
   Harryface, I share your opinion of Ponies--sold used cars for years.
During the 70's I was introduced to them; hurt my business; if customers
halfway serviced them, they wouldn't need another car!(ALMOST)
   Hope you can share a little humor with me: the reason we like them so
much: Its letters spell P(oor) O(ld) N(ovice) T(hinks) I(ts) A C(adillac).
Happy motoring.......s
jcr - 04 Feb 2006 01:59 GMT
Message from Harry Face written on 2/3/2006 5:11 PM:
> At some point during the day, Saturday, February 4, 2006 when your out
> drinking at the neighborhood pub, restaurant or lounging at home, raise
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> 05 Park Avenue, 34,145
> 91 Bonneville LE  305,679        

Looks like the mileage is climbing fast on the PA...
markansas859 - 04 Feb 2006 12:02 GMT
> At some point during the day, Saturday, February 4, 2006 when your out
> drinking at the neighborhood pub, restaurant or lounging at home,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> 05 Park Avenue, 34,145
> 91 Bonneville LE  305,679

I anxiously awaited 300,000 miles with you...

Congrats on 15 years together...
Cam - 04 Feb 2006 16:17 GMT
> At some point during the day, Saturday, February 4, 2006 when your out
> drinking at the neighborhood pub, restaurant or lounging at home, raise
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> 05 Park Avenue, 34,145
> 91 Bonneville LE  305,679

I'll drink to that!!

My 1979 Chevy Beauville G20 9 passenger window van is purring like a kitten
as well.
Worthington J. Wilmington - 04 Feb 2006 17:54 GMT
What size motor?
sdlomi2 - 07 Feb 2006 02:06 GMT
> What size motor?

   I'm not OP, but 3800 v-6 is the engine.  Possibly (probably, in my
opinion)the best engine GM EVER made.  Best of 4 worlds: power, smoothness,
economy, and longevity.  s
Mike Marlow - 07 Feb 2006 12:47 GMT
> > What size motor?
> >
>     I'm not OP, but 3800 v-6 is the engine.  Possibly (probably, in my
> opinion)the best engine GM EVER made.  Best of 4 worlds: power, smoothness,
> economy, and longevity.  s

Agreed.  Coolant leak issues notwithstanding.  Still the best engine for the
money out there.  Supercharge it and it gets even better.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

 
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