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Car Forum / GMC Cars / February 2006

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Tim or Linda - 07 Feb 2006 20:37 GMT
The heater core on my daughters GMC Jimmy seems to be  plugged. Its not a
full plug as some water comes out but the hose is cool. I have called around
and its over $700 to replace it and its not a job I can do with my
shoulders. I was told by a shop they could flush it for $70. I went to auto
zone and found Prestone Super Cleaner.

What are your thoughts of investing the money for a flush or should I try
the cleaner and flush it myself. I was told by one garage they flush with a
garden hose and I am thinking hell I can do that.
Shep - 07 Feb 2006 20:50 GMT
Just the core is blocked, any sludge in the cooling system, what year truck?
> The heater core on my daughters GMC Jimmy seems to be  plugged. Its not a
> full plug as some water comes out but the hose is cool. I have called
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> the cleaner and flush it myself. I was told by one garage they flush with
> a garden hose and I am thinking hell I can do that.
Tim or Linda - 07 Feb 2006 22:03 GMT
98 Jimmy 4.3 with AC

If I take the heater hose off I get some flow, but its up to temp one hose
is hot one is a little warm. I changed the thermostat

> Just the core is blocked, any sludge in the cooling system, what year
> truck?
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Shep - 08 Feb 2006 00:06 GMT
It would be unusual for just the heater core to clog without some issues in
the rest of the cooling system, before you spend any money here, I would
take the rad cap off and drain enough coolant to see down in the radiator
and look at the cores and general condition of the coolant, see if it looks
" muddy".
> 98 Jimmy 4.3 with AC
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Tim or Linda - 08 Feb 2006 00:30 GMT
I did flush it the best I could with a garden hose. I replaced the cap it
was filled with a rusty gum. The reservoir is a reddish rust color. Inside
the radiator the spring looking thing that I think is part of the
transmission cooler was covered with this same rusty looking crap. My
question is will the cleaner do as good a job as the $70 flush from a shop?

> It would be unusual for just the heater core to clog without some issues
> in the rest of the cooling system, before you spend any money here, I
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Shep - 08 Feb 2006 00:44 GMT
You need to have a pro look at this, could be the dexcool is contaminated
and has started to sludge up which can be another issue other than a simple
flush.
>I did flush it the best I could with a garden hose. I replaced the cap it
>was filled with a rusty gum. The reservoir is a reddish rust color. Inside
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scrapir - 08 Feb 2006 00:44 GMT
The flush is worth a try in this case. Although it sounds like you have a
coolant leak somewhere. Maybe the intake? The coolant gets rusty, slimmy,
like your saying when there is a air leak. So the flush might help for a
while but intil the leak is found and fixed you might run into this again
in 6 months.
aarcuda69062 - 08 Feb 2006 03:34 GMT
> I did flush it the best I could with a garden hose. I replaced the cap it
> was filled with a rusty gum. The reservoir is a reddish rust color. Inside
> the radiator the spring looking thing that I think is part of the
> transmission cooler was covered with this same rusty looking crap. My
> question is will the cleaner do as good a job as the $70 flush from a shop?

The rusty looking crap  might very well be stop leak.

Better parts stores will have Permatex radiator flush available,
comes in a quart bottle.  It's acid so use appropriate caution.  
1/3 to 1/2 bottle depending on how dirty the system is. Follow
the directions on the bottle.
You need to reverse the flow thru the heater core to loosen the
muck.  Your FLAPS should be able to sell you 5/8" to 3/4" hose
adaptors, you need two and one piece of 5/8" heater hose and one
piece 3/4" heater hose, 4"-6" long.  Install the short pieces of
hose with the size adaptors so that the inlet and outlet heater
hoses can be reversed, flush the cooling system until clear water
runs, add the Permatex radiator flush and drive the truck for
15-20 minutes fully warmed up.
Flush the system again, let the water run for 20-40 minutes, best
is if you open the block drains so everything that might be
trapped in the block has a way to escape.  Change the heater
hoses back to where they belong. Refill with fresh Dexcool in the
proper mix.  Replace the radiator cap, fill the overflow to the
"HOT" mark.

I've had 100% success doing this on S and T trucks with blocked
heater cores, and it beats the hell out of pulling the dash and
changing the heater core.

Naturally, if you're going to do this, you'll want to make
absolutely certain that the intake manifold gaskets haven't failed
(i.e., has it had a history of coolant loss?)
Tim or Linda - 08 Feb 2006 03:54 GMT
I have had to add a small amount of coolant now and then but really don't
know how much. If it needs a new heater core, and A/C is also not working.
My thinking is try the flush if still no heat its time to replace the car.

>> I did flush it the best I could with a garden hose. I replaced the cap it
>> was filled with a rusty gum. The reservoir is a reddish rust color.
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> absolutely certain that the intake manifold gaskets haven't failed
> (i.e., has it had a history of coolant loss?)
mockingbirdstl@aol.com - 08 Feb 2006 07:15 GMT
what happens when you shove the hose up your a.s?
Tim or Linda - 08 Feb 2006 07:33 GMT
sorry group this sick person is stalking me on line. He has followed me to
groups I visit.

> what happens when you shove the hose up your a.s?
NickySantoro - 08 Feb 2006 14:47 GMT
>sorry group this sick person is stalking me on line. He has followed me to
>groups I visit.

I've got some pillow biter that follows me too.
NickySantoro - 08 Feb 2006 14:46 GMT
>what happens when you shove the hose up your a.s?

Your momma comes out with the rest of the sh.t, Mockingbird.
Plonk!
Tim or Linda - 08 Feb 2006 14:55 GMT
This guy has called my wife a slut and posted we are swingers. He has used
my sig name so if you see a negative post it may not be me. He slams people
on a disability group as being lazy.  He also uses the name of Chuck P
Adams. Watch him slam on me now LOL. Such a big man to say these things over
the net. You can report a person for cyber stalking.

>>what happens when you shove the hose up your a.s?
>
> Your momma comes out with the rest of the sh.t, Mockingbird.
> Plonk!
NickySantoro - 08 Feb 2006 14:44 GMT
>I was told by one garage they flush with a
>garden hose and I am thinking hell I can do that.

BTDT. If the engine temps are OK and you don't see any junk in the rad
when you remove the cap, just flush the core with a garden hose in
both directions.
Tim or Linda - 08 Feb 2006 14:56 GMT
I think I will take it to a shop and flush it. If I was able to work I would
of replaced it with something new a couple years ago.

>>I was told by one garage they flush with a
>>garden hose and I am thinking hell I can do that.
>>
> BTDT. If the engine temps are OK and you don't see any junk in the rad
> when you remove the cap, just flush the core with a garden hose in
> both directions.
NickySantoro - 08 Feb 2006 23:40 GMT
>I think I will take it to a shop and flush it. If I was able to work I would
>of replaced it with something new a couple years ago.
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>> when you remove the cap, just flush the core with a garden hose in
>> both directions.

Make sure they pay special attention to the core. A regular coolant
flush might not get it.
FWIW
YMMV
Jonny - 09 Feb 2006 00:53 GMT
> The heater core on my daughters GMC Jimmy seems to be  plugged. Its not a
> full plug as some water comes out but the hose is cool. I have called
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> the cleaner and flush it myself. I was told by one garage they flush with
> a garden hose and I am thinking hell I can do that.

Reading paraphenalia with my new heater core replacement mentions voltage in
the coolant itself causing electrolysis.  Little as .1+ volts is all that
needed.  The worst of it will be where the ground is located in the cooling
system.  IE radiator or heater core.
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Hairy - 09 Feb 2006 02:29 GMT
> Reading paraphenalia with my new heater core replacement mentions voltage in
> the coolant itself causing electrolysis.  Little as .1+ volts is all that
> needed.  The worst of it will be where the ground is located in the cooling
> system.  IE radiator or heater core.

It seems to me that the heater core would be about the least grounded
component.

Dave
Jonny - 09 Feb 2006 12:55 GMT
>> Reading paraphenalia with my new heater core replacement mentions voltage
> in
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> Dave

Where the heater core integrated pipes enter the firewall from underhood,
there's a bracket (metal) that separates and contacts the two pipes and is
bolted to the firewall.  And the two bands that hold the heater core proper
are metal, use two metal screws each and are bolted to the firewall inside
the passenger compartment.  94 Chevy Blazer S-10, V-6 4.3L Vortec engine,
w/AC.
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