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Car Forum / GMC Cars / April 2006

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2001 Impala play in steering

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Eugene Nine - 19 Mar 2006 04:13 GMT
I've not messed with rack and pinion before, is there any adjustment to it?
There seems to be some play where the steering shaft enters the rack and
pinion unit, I can turn the wheel a bit each way with no movement of the
wheels and have a little up and down play in the shaft.  Maybe a bearing at
the top that can be replaced or are these non serviceable?
Shep - 19 Mar 2006 17:35 GMT
Not a tie rod end or inner tie rod? Is the play right where the stub shaft
enters the rack, was the engine running when you checked this ?
> I've not messed with rack and pinion before, is there any adjustment to
> it?
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> at
> the top that can be replaced or are these non serviceable?
Eugene Nine - 19 Mar 2006 17:37 GMT
> Not a tie rod end or inner tie rod? Is the play right where the stub shaft
> enters the rack, was the engine running when you checked this ?

Yes, its right where the stub shaft enters the rack and the engine was
running.  I can turn the shaft a bit side to side and the tie rods don't
move at all.
Chuck - 25 Apr 2006 08:51 GMT
Some play is normal, and may actually be needed to allow a power steering
valve to operate properly. Often, a pressure pad presses against the rack to
reduce the effect that normal play has.  This pad has adjustable pressure on
some designs.
The tires will eventually cup if there is too much play and the rack is too
free to move.   Mazda had this problem with early models of the MPV van. The
cupping occurred more frequently on vans with very good alignments than
those with poor alignment.

> > Not a tie rod end or inner tie rod? Is the play right where the stub shaft
> > enters the rack, was the engine running when you checked this ?
>
> Yes, its right where the stub shaft enters the rack and the engine was
> running.  I can turn the shaft a bit side to side and the tie rods don't
> move at all.
Eugene Nine - 25 Apr 2006 23:21 GMT
> Some play is normal, and may actually be needed to allow a power steering
> valve to operate properly. Often, a pressure pad presses against the rack
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> The cupping occurred more frequently on vans with very good alignments
> than those with poor alignment.

This is more play than it used to have,  feels like the old Ford trucks from
the 70's where you have bump the wheel back and forth driving down a
straight road.
shawnews - 27 Apr 2006 02:14 GMT
There is a Technical Service Bulletin on this condition...you may also be
noticing a slight, slight clicking on left slow turns...
Go to the dealer and ask them to perform the Technical Service Bulletin
(TSB) which involves a lubrication kit for the Intermediate Steering
Shaft...You probably need to do this about every 2 years depending on how
much driving you do...
Good luck,
Steve
> Some play is normal, and may actually be needed to allow a power steering
> valve to operate properly. Often, a pressure pad presses against the rack
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>> running.  I can turn the shaft a bit side to side and the tie rods don't
>> move at all.
 
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