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Car Forum / GMC Cars / April 2006

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You own or you work on Cavalier, no ear say here just fact please...

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Rick - 06 Apr 2006 10:41 GMT
I am the guy on the GM group asking the question about the Ecotec.

Now  I wonder if its a good idea to buy this cavalier with an auto
transmission for my son ? Year 2002/2003.

Biggest problem that I should know about ? I am a pretty decent backyard
mechanics so most of the repair will  be done by the poor father ;-((  !!!

Thanks for your input gentleman

Richard
hdd - 06 Apr 2006 12:38 GMT
http://www.ecotecpower.com/forums/list.php?f=12

Try this forum

> I am the guy on the GM group asking the question about the Ecotec.
>
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> Richard
Mike Marlow - 06 Apr 2006 13:38 GMT
> I am the guy on the GM group asking the question about the Ecotec.
>
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>
> Richard

No "ear say", just the fact please?  Whatever.  Hearsay would also be
considered to be the reputation of a vehicle, but since you don't want that,
so be it.

Good idea?  Very hard to answer.  You haven't provided any information about
price, mileage, condition, seller, and a host of other considerations.  Hard
to give any facts that might be relevant.

Poor father doing all the work - you've got my sympathies on that point.  I
know all about that role.

I can't tell you a single "fact" about a 2002/2003 Cavalier, but my daughter
owns a 2000 Sunfire with a 2.2L, which is essentially the same car.  Hers
has ~110,000 miles on it and the repair history has been limited to one rear
wheel bearing (parts - ~$120), and fuel tank and pump/sender.  This second
repair was performed by a shop since it broke down out of town and the
repair that should have been in the neighborhood of $200-$300 was around
$600.

You can object to this if you wish, but when you come into a forum with a
subject line like this one it implies that you consider your time or your
thought process to be above that of others.  "Just fact please" seems to
state that you have little regard for what takes place in a forum like this.
Indeed there is a lot of stuff bounced around that is less than factual, but
that's the nature of a forum.  People don't share information in a place
like this simply to jump to a poster's demand for "just the fact please".
There's actually a lot to be gleaned from the stuff that you might not
consider to be fact.  I suspect no insult is intended by your subject line
and that you're trying to cut to the chase in the interest of time, but my
personal reaction to it was that it came across as somewhat demanding.

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Al Bundy - 06 Apr 2006 15:02 GMT
> > I am the guy on the GM group asking the question about the Ecotec.

> You can object to this if you wish, but when you come into a forum with a
> subject line like this one it implies that you consider your time or your
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> and that you're trying to cut to the chase in the interest of time, but my
> personal reaction to it was that it came across as somewhat demanding.

Well said, Mike.
Rick - 06 Apr 2006 20:53 GMT
>> > I am the guy on the GM group asking the question about the Ecotec.
>
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> Well said, Mike.

Mike and Al, sorry if my demand sound  rude to you guys. I am a french
canadian with a limited vocabulary in English.

I was with the subject line trying to keep away the One track minded owner
of Japanese, German or Gods know what else to come and polute the post with
their story of a guy knowing another guy in another country that is having
problem with a Cavalier !!

In others words I was trying to gather response from the peoples with
knowledge of the product.

Once again, it was not my intention to be rude , my apologise are gladly
offered !! ;-)
Big Al - 07 Apr 2006 03:50 GMT
> >> > I am the guy on the GM group asking the question about the Ecotec.
> >
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> Once again, it was not my intention to be rude , my apologise are gladly
> offered !! ;-)

My suggestion: If you're going to try to work on it yourself, the 2.2L
engine is a lot easier to work on.

Al
Mike Marlow - 07 Apr 2006 09:16 GMT
> Mike and Al, sorry if my demand sound  rude to you guys. I am a french
> canadian with a limited vocabulary in English.

Hey Rick - no need to apologize.

> I was with the subject line trying to keep away the One track minded owner
> of Japanese, German or Gods know what else to come and polute the post with
> their story of a guy knowing another guy in another country that is having
> problem with a Cavalier !!

Not here Rick.  The only thing the Toyota and Honda owners ever post here is
that their cars never break, or their glee at GM's problems.

> In others words I was trying to gather response from the peoples with
> knowledge of the product.

And in the case of my reply to you Rick - my comments are only slightly more
than useless.  My daughter's car does not have an Ecotec in it.  She has the
basic 2.2L.  Though the experiences she has had with non-engine related
performance of the car remain valid, they offer no insight for you with
respect to Ecotek performance.  Sorry.

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Harry Face - 09 Apr 2006 16:18 GMT
Some Cavalier owners are surprised there is no dipstick for the
transmission,

Good Luck  

Harryface

05 Park Avenue     36,921
91 Bonneville LE 306,353
Rick - 09 Apr 2006 20:52 GMT
> Some Cavalier owners are surprised there is no dipstick for the
> transmission,
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> 05 Park Avenue     36,921
> 91 Bonneville LE 306,353

Yes like my Malibu 97
Dan J.S. - 07 Apr 2006 03:42 GMT
>I am the guy on the GM group asking the question about the Ecotec.
>
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>
> Richard

Get a Corolla and save the time it takes to fix the cavalier...
 
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