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Car Forum / GMC Cars / July 2006Ford Increases Warranty Period for 2007 Models, Will GM Follow?
I've been saying here for a long time that one of the things GM and the other US car companies need to do is to put their money with their mouths are regarding quality and reliability. If a vehicle is properly designed, properly built, and then maintained by the book then nothing should go wrong with any major component during the first five or more years of use. Now Ford is taking a big step in that direction. I wonder if GM will follow suite. This from: http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Daily_Edition/Daily_Edition_Jul_14_200 6.S173.A10636.html " Ford Extending Warranties Ford Motor Co. is trying to outflank some key competitors such as General Motors and DaimlerChrysler by announcing plans for what it described as the best warranty and roadside assistance packages now available from any full-line manufacturer. The no-deductible, fully transferable powertrain limited warranty on 2007 Ford and Mercury vehicles is now five years or 60,000 miles" john > I've been saying here for a long time that one of the things GM and the > other US car companies need to do is to put their money with their mouths [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > john Hey John, we have a 2005 Chrysler minivan that has the a seven-year/70,000-mile powertrain warranty (think they went back to 3/36 in '06?). But, it sure sounds good to consumers & I'd love to see 'our' big 3 offer, with confidence, longer than 3/36 like your Ford article indicates. The 7/70 on wife's '05 Chrys sure helped decide. s > Hey John, we have a 2005 Chrysler minivan that has the a > seven-year/70,000-mile powertrain warranty (think they went back to 3/36 in > '06?). But, it sure sounds good to consumers & I'd love to see 'our' big 3 > offer, with confidence, longer than 3/36 like your Ford article indicates. > The 7/70 on wife's '05 Chrys sure helped decide. s It would definitely make a difference in my future car shopping. I don't intend to buy another GM until they straighten up their act. I dont really care too much for Fords, but that 500 (?) looks pretty interesting...that is the one, IIUC, that is sort of a Volvo crossbreed. > I dont really care too much for Fords, but that 500 (?) looks pretty > interesting...that is the > one, IIUC, that is sort of a Volvo crossbreed. Big box interior, but very heavy. I understand it's on the Volvo 70 frame. The 500 is a full size vehicle. It, the Freestyle SUV and the Mercury Montigo are not built on a separate frame. They are built on a Ford designed unibody chassis, first used by Volvo. mike hunt >> I dont really care too much for Fords, but that 500 (?) looks pretty >> interesting...that is the >> one, IIUC, that is sort of a Volvo crossbreed. > Big box interior, but very heavy. > I understand it's on the Volvo 70 frame. > The 500 is a full size vehicle. It, the Freestyle SUV and the Mercury > Montigo are not built on a separate frame. They are built on a Ford > designed unibody chassis, first used by Volvo. Volvo = Ford. > The 500 is a full size vehicle. It, the Freestyle SUV and the Mercury > Montigo are not built on a separate frame. They are built on a Ford > designed unibody chassis, first used by Volvo. > > mike hunt Actually the S80 unibody design is reported to be the basis of those vehicles, but was designed by Volvo before the Ford takeover. The S80 was simply a further development of the 850 design introduced in 1992 by Volvo. John > Hey John, we have a 2005 Chrysler minivan that has the a > seven-year/70,000-mile powertrain warranty (think they went back to 3/36 in > '06?). But, it sure sounds good to consumers & I'd love to see 'our' big 3 > offer, with confidence, longer than 3/36 like your Ford article indicates. > The 7/70 on wife's '05 Chrys sure helped decide. s Wait till you discover all the parts that are NOT covered by that powertrain warranty. Things like bearings, tie rods etc.... IOW a lot of the stuff the powertrain goes THROUGH to deliver the power are NOT covered.... I know... I have a 2000 Caravan with the best warranty they offered at the time and I have still had to pay for stuff. IE: the halfshaft is covered, but the wheel bearing that caused it to fail is not covered and neither is the labor to replace the wheel bearing. Despite the fact it all has to come apart anyway to replace parts. Total scam IMHO. After, on a 2000 Caravan bought brand new and lightly driven: 3 Power steering rack and pinions. 2 Half shafts. 2 PCM's (computer) 3 transmission sensors Sway bar bushings 3 times 1 fuel pump 2 tie rod ends (not covered). 1 clock spring (Recall) 1 BCM (semi covered) I will NEVER, I REPEAT NEVER, buy another Chrysler product. They make sh.t!!!!!!!!!! > After, on a 2000 Caravan bought brand new and lightly driven: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > They make sh.t!!!!!!!!!! Congratulations on having joined the Never Again Club (NAC). The US based makers (and VW!) have put millions of their former customers into the NAC and will never see them back again, not to mention the influence these people have on their friends and family. John > Congratulations on having joined the Never Again Club (NAC). The US > based makers (and VW!) have put millions of their former customers into > the NAC and will never see them back again, not to mention the influence > these people have on their friends and family. > > John Actually I like US cars, I have a mint 92 Caprice with 370,000 original miles on original engine and tranny. BTW I live in NY and am in NYC all the time. Try that with a rice burner. My daughter has a 2003 Jetta and it just runs. She has about 60k on it and aside from a recall for the heated seats, it has never seen the dealer. My next car is a Ford Mustang and in fact I am looking now for a leftover 2006. I wouldn't take a jap car if someone gave one to me. Why? Total lack of ACCURATE documentation (ie:service manuals) An anal retentive attitude at the dealerships which makes the customer feel like crap. Parts that cost 3x the going rate. I keep my cars a VERY LONG time and the rice burners start to crumble at the magic 100k mark... Examples? A friend of mine needed work done on his 2000 Lexus.... $3000 later they finally discovered the A/C clutch had an open coil.... Interestingly enough I had the same problem on my Caprice. $49.99 and mine was fixed..... Another example: Another friend of mine needed an ignition module for a Camry. $350 later he got one. My Caprice? $25.00 and you can get it at any local auto parts store. I travel a LOT on business and rent cars in places all over the country. I have driven all kinds of cars and for my money the rice burners are total crap. You want to buy a real nice car? Buy a Volvo Cross Country wagon. Ugly yes...but it is built like a tank. Wanna buy a sh.t car? Suburu Outback, Saturn Vue, Ford Escape, Toyota Camry interestingly enough the Toyota Corolla was a pleasant car. Anything Honda is pure garbage. Mitsubishi? They are talking of pulling out of USA if sales aren;t up to expectations this year. "lymee" <irish.lymee@yahoo.com> wrote in message > You want to buy a real nice car? > Buy a Volvo Cross Country wagon. > Ugly yes...but it is built like a tank. Yeah, but ugly still counts. Buy it as a Ford Freestyle and save $5,000 ;) mike hunt > "lymee" <irish.lymee@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> You want to buy a real nice car? >> Buy a Volvo Cross Country wagon. >> Ugly yes...but it is built like a tank. > > Yeah, but ugly still counts. > Hey John, we have a 2005 Chrysler minivan that has the a > seven-year/70,000-mile powertrain warranty (think they went back to 3/36 in > '06?). But, it sure sounds good to consumers & I'd love to see 'our' big 3 > offer, with confidence, longer than 3/36 like your Ford article indicates. > The 7/70 on wife's '05 Chrys sure helped decide. s Chrysler extended the warranty to 7 yrs on my '95 Concord's troublesome air conditioner. It cost them too and fortunately their fix worked after 3 tries. John, Ahhh, I'm getting flashbacks (and it ain't a bad acid trip). Reminds me of the mid-60s when the "Big 4" got into a warranty war. Dealers made a ton of money on work but the mfrs. got clobbered. With the quality of the Detroit products being a bit higher than 40 years ago it should not cost Ford that much to do this. As far as I'm concerned, a better warranty might "break a tie", but I would not buy a car just based on its warranty. Regards, Bill Bowen Sacramento, CA >I've been saying here for a long time that one of the things GM and the >other US car companies need to do is to put their money with their [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >john "William H. Bowen" <wh_bowen@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > As far as I'm concerned, a better warranty might "break a tie", but I > would not buy a car just based on its warranty. > > Regards, Having been "stung" on a warranty issue, it may do a little more than break a tie. I understand wear, but when non-moving parts fail inside of three years, they should be covered regardless of miles. I would rather have the option of buying a vehicle without any warranty, if it would lower the selling price. I have not had any car, foreign or domestic, in years that ever had a warranty claim. When I bought my first new vehicle the warranty was only for thirty days or 1,000 miles,WOF. Same with recalls. I never had a vehicle that exhibited the problem for which mine was recalled. Simply a waste of time for me. When I get a recall that says" You vehicle may have-.....ETC, I toss it in the trash ;) mike hunt > John, > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> >>john > I've been saying here for a long time that one of the things GM and the > other US car companies need to do is to put their money with their mouths [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > john My 2007 Buick Lucerne has a 4 year/50K mile "bumper to bumper" warranty. A step up from the old 3yr/36K mile warranty. "ACP" <noneone@nowhere.nohow> wrote in message > My 2007 Buick Lucerne has a 4 year/50K mile "bumper to bumper" warranty. > > A step up from the old 3yr/36K mile warranty. We'll see if it is a step up. Bumper to bumper might exclude everything in between. I wish you well with it. We considered the Lucerne, but decided it was too new and too undeveloped. AND GM is such a shitteaux company that when they make a bad mistake they try to bury you with it. Really? I have a 1971 Ford vehicle that has 300K on the clock. I just did the first major repair, a carbon and valve job, after THIRTY five years. mike hunt >> I've been saying here for a long time that one of the things GM and the >> other US car companies need to do is to put their money with their mouths >> are regarding quality and reliability. If a vehicle is properly >> designed, properly built, and then maintained by the book then nothing >> should go wrong with any major component during the first five or more >> years of use. > " Ford Extending Warranties > Ford Motor Co. is trying to outflank some key competitors such as General [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > limited warranty on 2007 Ford and Mercury vehicles is now five years or > 60,000 miles" Big deal, Ford trannies don't last 100k, so IMO they're about 40k miles too short ;) And besides this is a powertrain warranty, not bumper-to-bumper, BFD. Ford can kiss the whitest part of my a.s. I'll never own another one. I love my Chevy :-D -GV >I've been saying here for a long time that one of the things GM and the >other US car companies need to do is to put their money with their [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >john It won't matter. People realize that GM and Ford produce crap. They will buy value, not bullshit. Really? Then how come GM and Ford sell more vehicles in the US than ANY other manufacture? ;) mike hunt >>" Ford Extending Warranties >>Ford Motor Co. is trying to outflank some key competitors such as [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It won't matter. People realize that GM and Ford produce crap. They > will buy value, not bullshit. > Really? Then how come GM and Ford sell more vehicles in the US than ANY > other manufacture? ;) Because rental car companies buy them by the trainload. John |
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