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Car Forum / GMC Cars / August 2006

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carb, fuel inj, and fuel economy

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njot - 08 Aug 2006 00:26 GMT
Are there any carb vs. fuel injection experts out there?
I am curious why two cars of same size and weight, with the same engine
and transmission, except one is older and has a carburetor, the other
has fuel injection...
both cars run fine... why would the carbureted one get significantly
worse gas mileage at interstate speeds (65-70 mph)?
In this case we are talking about two front wheel drive GM A body
vehicles (which are obviously not new cars at this point) with 2.5 4
cyl engines and auto trans... Both are in a good state of tune... why
would both cars get about 25 mpg city...
but on the highway on a long trip, going 65-70, would the one with fuel
injection, get 32 mpg, while the one with a carburetor get only 27 mpg?

I don't think it is an ignition issue as both run great.  It isn't a
tire pressure issue since both have equal tire pressure.  Any thoughts
appreciated.  I plan to keep both cars but think the older, carbureted
one could do better on gas (who wants to spend extra money on gas these
days...)
sdlomi2 - 08 Aug 2006 11:43 GMT
> Are there any carb vs. fuel injection experts out there?
> I am curious why two cars of same size and weight, with the same engine
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> one could do better on gas (who wants to spend extra money on gas these
> days...)

   There exists what is known as an ideal gasoline-to-air mixture.  Any
deviation richer or leaner has a negative effect on mileage/efficiency.
Electronic fuel inj. continuously monitors this ratio and alters the
mixture, many times per second, to keep it at this ideal.  Carbs just cannot
achieve this accuracy, even with computor-monitoring and altering.  Also,
carbs put the mixture into the general proximity of all the cylinders,
meaning that with all 4 cylinders receiving fuel from the same source, some
cylinders will get more, some less, depending on its distance from the carb.
With elec. fuel. inj.--esp. multi-port inj.--each cyl is the same distance
from its injector and can receive the same, theoretically exact,  input of
fuel on each pulse of the injector:hence a second important feature for
economy.
   The throtle-body injection, esp. before the "Vortec" type that GM has,
has the similar precise control of mixture, but lacks the
equi-distant-to-cylinders characteristic of multi-port.  Its efficiency
probably lies somewhere between carbs and multi-port.
   HTH, s
njot - 09 Aug 2006 19:49 GMT
I realized another difference between the two cars that probably makes
a big difference.  The older, carbureted car has 13 inch wheels, while
the newer one has 14 inch wheels.  The older car's engine would turn at
higher rpm's at a given speed, and burn more fuel.

For some reason, though, driving at say 60 mph instead of 67 or 68 mph
makes a big difference on the carbureted car.  I know I used to get
more like 30 or 31 mpg with it, and I think driving slower was why.
I'm just surprised what a huge difference it makes.

>     There exists what is known as an ideal gasoline-to-air mixture.  Any
> deviation richer or leaner has a negative effect on mileage/efficiency.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> probably lies somewhere between carbs and multi-port.
>     HTH, s
 
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