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Car Forum / GMC Cars / August 2006GM Does Something Right - 2009 Camaro a Go
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Auto_News/RELEASE_Camaro_Confirmed_for _2009.S175.A10745.html I wonder what platform this is being built off of? It is said to feature independent rear suspension, so perhaps the Cadillac CTS is the starting point???? Does anyone know? John Hate to say it but it looks like a Mustang. http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Auto_News/RELEASE_Camaro_Confirmed_for _2009.S175.A10745.html > I wonder what platform this is being built off of? It is said to > feature independent rear suspension, so perhaps the Cadillac CTS is the > starting point???? Does anyone know? > > John > Hate to say it but it looks like a Mustang. > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > John Nothing original EH! Just copy cats, no original thought? > I wonder what platform this is being built off of? It is said to Last I heard it was the same "Zeta" or "Global RWD Architecture" platform as the next gen Impala/Monte Carlo. Apparently the same as this: http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/modeloverview?modelid=4000. Correct me if I'm wrong. Steve > http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Auto_News/RELEASE_Camaro_Confirmed_for _2009.S175.A10745.html > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > John Tell me what price point it will be set at and I'll tell you whether I'm excited or not. IMHO the GTO got clobbered not because it sucked (it didn't) but because it was too expensive to be considered by people just looking for transportation, but possibly willing to pay a small premium for a fun to drive car. RWD and IRS is a good start, though. nate > Tell me what price point it will be set at and I'll tell you whether > I'm excited or not. IMHO the GTO got clobbered not because it sucked > (it didn't) but because it was too expensive to be considered by people > just looking for transportation, but possibly willing to pay a small > premium for a fun to drive car. The GTO also completely lacked the looks to go with it's heritage. The original Camaro was a competitive response to the original Mustang and this new one is once again a response to Ford's revitalized Mustang. That being the case, I would expect GM to offer a range of models at price points which compete strongly with the current Mustang. The recent GTO was a bad idea from the day the LiGhT BuLb went off in Bob Lutz's well paid head. He just insisted that the one remaining rear wheel drive car in the GM empire, in this case from Australia, would be just the thing to bring back excitement to the Pontiac brand. Nice try, but bzzzt. Now the Solstice is another story! John > The original Camaro was a competitive response to the original Mustang > and this new one is once again a response to Ford's revitalized Mustang. Building a car to a price is never a good idea though. It's a setup for poor quality material. Steve Not quite the build cost determined by economies of scale and the level of sophistication, but the market sets the MSRP. Look at cars that are sold around the world a widely spaced retail pricing yet the build cost is the same. mike hunt >> The original Camaro was a competitive response to the original Mustang >> and this new one is once again a response to Ford's revitalized Mustang. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Steve >> The original Camaro was a competitive response to the original Mustang >> and this new one is once again a response to Ford's revitalized Mustang. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Steve All cars are built to a planned price point, even expensive ones. Engineering is all about tradeoffs. John >>The original Camaro was a competitive response to the original Mustang >>and this new one is once again a response to Ford's revitalized Mustang. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Steve Given that we're talking about a Chevy, I assumed that was coming with it no matter what the price point. nate (sadly, I'm not really joking.)  Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel >http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Auto_News/RELEASE_Camaro_Confirmed_for _2009.S175.A10745.html > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >John They did something right? Too late, every car manufacturer has beat them in the re-release game. And besides, it's fugly... It will be built in the US on a version of ,an Australian Holden RWD chassis. The car shown at car shows and published with the announcement, was built on a Corvette chasses. mike hunt > http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Auto_News/RELEASE_Camaro_Confirmed_for _2009.S175.A10745.html > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > John What makes you think it will be built in the US? > It will be built in the US on a version of ,an Australian Holden RWD > chassis. The car shown at car shows and published with the announcement, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> John > What makes you think it will be built in the US? Other countries would not want to be associated with such an ugly car? Well, maybe France would build it in the old Citroen plant. Japan would, no country makes as many ugly cars as they do in Japan ;) mike hunt >> What makes you think it will be built in the US? > > Other countries would not want to be associated with such an ugly car? > Well, maybe France would build it in the old Citroen plant. GMs report to stockholders says so. mike hunt > What makes you think it will be built in the US? > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >>> >>> John The big talk around here is its going to be built at the Oshawa, Ontario plant. It's the #1 plant in the world, they deserve it. > GMs report to stockholders says so. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>>> >>>> John > The big talk around here is its going to be built at the Oshawa, Ontario > plant. It's the #1 plant in the world, they deserve it. Oshawa it is. Expect the announcement Monday morning. More Zeta models are to follow. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060818.wgmweb0818/BNStory/B usiness/home Jane > > GMs report to stockholders says so. > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >>>> > >>>> John >> The big talk around here is its going to be built at the Oshawa, Ontario >> plant. It's the #1 plant in the world, they deserve it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jane That is going to make a lot of people around here very happy. Thanks for the news Jane! > >> The big talk around here is its going to be built at the Oshawa, Ontario > >> plant. It's the #1 plant in the world, they deserve it. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > That is going to make a lot of people around here very happy. Including me! I'm a plant #2 employee with 7 yrs to retirement. I'm estatic, believe me! Jane Thanks for the > news Jane! |
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