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Car Forum / GMC Cars / September 2006Folly of Automakers
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0902-25.htm > http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0902-25.htm Read the last sentence of this paragraph carefully: "Even if Bush met with the shriveling Big Three, the session probably would not amount to much more than extra CO{-2}. If Bush is still looking for weapons of mass destruction, the Big Three keep producing them. Ford and GM have bled tens of thousands of manufacturing jobs. Bush has bled 3 million of them. Bush keeps saying he will stay the course. The Big Three never veer off course. Bush says we're addicted to oil. The Big Three remain hooked on gas guzzlers." Shouldn't it read instead: "The Big Three remain hooked on the consumer's thirst for gas guzzlers." ? > > http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0902-25.htm > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Shouldn't it read instead: "The Big Three remain hooked on the consumer's > thirst for gas guzzlers." ? Yeah. The entire article seems to be a rant by a liberal eco idiot who wants us all to drive hybrids and tiny electic autos that max out at 55 mph. No thanks. My next car will have at least 300 hp. > > Shouldn't it read instead: "The Big Three remain hooked on the consumer's > > thirst for gas guzzlers." ? > > Yeah. The entire article seems to be a rant by a liberal eco idiot who wants us > all to drive hybrids and tiny electic autos that max out at 55 mph. > No thanks. My next car will have at least 300 hp. I just got back from Europe, where I will be working soon. Gasoline there is $6.80 per gallon right now. That takes a lot of the fun out of 300 bhp. >> Yeah. The entire article seems to be a rant by a liberal eco idiot >> who wants us all to drive hybrids and tiny electic autos that max out at 55 mph. >> No thanks. My next car will have at least 300 hp. If everyone drove vehicles that got 10mpg and put out 300hp, gas demand and prices would go through the roof. Plus many more pollutants would be expelled into the atmosphere. You oughtta have respect for those among us who are willing to drive smaller cars that get 35-40mpg. We help keep gas prices low and the Earth cleaner, so folks like you can afford to fill up your gas guzzler. I'm tired of putting up with hyper-aggressive types with penile length issues/concerns who have to rape the Earth to feel like a man. There are many formerly wild areas near here that used to be safe for animals, but now the dumbasses on their ATV's are tearing it up. If you need to test your manhood, start learning mixed martial arts/Jiu- Jitsu/cagefighting like I train in. Tread lightly, folks. > If everyone drove vehicles that got 10mpg and put out 300hp, gas demand > and prices would go through the roof. Plus many more pollutants would [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Tread lightly, folks. Have a bad day today, did you?  Signature-Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net "Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in news:d5cd1$45009bd5$471fbb8f $11533@ALLTEL.NET: >> If everyone drove vehicles that got 10mpg and put out 300hp, gas demand >> and prices would go through the roof. Plus many more pollutants would [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Have a bad day today, did you? No..............:-)...............not yet.... > >> Yeah. The entire article seems to be a rant by a liberal eco idiot > >> who wants us all to drive hybrids and tiny electic autos that max out [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Actually I glad there are people like you that are willing to sacrifice driving fun so that people like me can have fun driving. Perhaps if I lived in a big city and never left there I would have a wimpy electric car, but not here. Highways in Central and West Texas are a blast at 125+ mph. >> >> Yeah. The entire article seems to be a rant by a liberal eco >> >> idiot who wants us all to drive hybrids and tiny electic autos [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > wimpy electric car, but not here. Highways in Central and West Texas > are a blast at 125+ mph. I used to live in Amarillo Texas in the Panhandle (for 14 years of my youth). I've seen many twisters. Gotta love all those Dairy Queen 'Country Basket'eatin' Chevy Suburban (454 V8; not the wimpy 350ci V8) drivers! :-) I still miss Texas, but if I were to move back, I'd probably move to Austin. I think you are a bit confused. My one vehicle a 2007 has 300 HP and easily gets 25 MPG on the highway. One of my other vehicles, a smaller 2006, has 220 HP and gets only three MPG more on the highway. ;) mike >>> Yeah. The entire article seems to be a rant by a liberal eco idiot >>> who wants us all to drive hybrids and tiny electic autos that max out [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > help keep gas prices low and the Earth cleaner, so folks like you can > afford to fill up your gas guzzler. > I think you are a bit confused. My one vehicle a 2007 has 300 HP and > easily gets 25 MPG on the highway. One of my other vehicles, a > smaller 2006, has 220 HP and gets only three MPG more on the highway. > ;) > > mike Wouldn't be the first time I was ever confused! Yeah, I guess technology has largely negated many of the factors that caused large engines to get bad gas mileage. A carburetted 454 with old style ignition would probably get 8 mpg city, 10 highway. > I think you are a bit confused. My one vehicle a 2007 has 300 HP and easily > gets 25 MPG on the highway. One of my other vehicles, a smaller 2006, has > 220 HP and gets only three MPG more on the highway. ;) Highway cruising isn't where the big difference is Mike, it's urban driving where the bigger displacement engine consumes much more fuel. Add a heavy body that has to be continually accelerated and it's even worse. >> > Shouldn't it read instead: "The Big Three remain hooked on the >consumer's [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >is >$6.80 per gallon right now. That takes a lot of the fun out of 300 bhp. Europe has traditionally high gas prices which will probably prove to be deterimental to the progress of the European Union. What are they driving there ??? VW's, Volvo's ??? "Peter" <Peter@spamtrap.net> wrote in message > Europe has traditionally high gas prices which will probably prove to be > deterimental > to the progress of the European Union. What are they driving there ??? > VW's, Volvo's > ??? Depends on where in Europe. In Italy, the most common cars are Smart, Fiat, Toyota Yaris, saw very few Chevy Aveo, Fords and I saw only one Jeep. All of the trailer trucks are much smaller, probably 40 foot trailer and cab over engine tractors. In the cities, about 40% of the vehicles are 2 wheelers. Vespa and Yamaha seem most prevalent. You never saw a big 900 to 1200 cc like we have here. Diesel is fairly common also. Parking is at a premium most places and it is common to have scooters and small motorcycles lined up for an entire block; hundreds of them. In Siena, I even saw a car parked in the vestibule of a house. The owner opened the front double doors and pulled his Fiat out to the street. In Austria, Mercedes, Volkswagen, Citroen are more common. > "Peter" <Peter@spamtrap.net> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Depends on where in Europe. In Italy, the most common cars are Smart, Fiat, > Toyota Yaris, So true. A few yrs ago on a cruise I was in Naples, Italy where the cars were so small they were no threat to pedestrians and I'd have to be shoehorned into them. A few days later I was in Barcelona where the cars were much more usable for a 6' frame, as they are in the UK. > I just got back from Europe, where I will be working soon. Gasoline there > is > $6.80 per gallon right now. That takes a lot of the fun out of 300 bhp. Would be interesting to do a comparaison betwween the same car in North America and Europe. The difference in gas cunsumption and HP, among other things. We might be surprised. > I just got back from Europe, where I will be working soon. Gasoline there > is > $6.80 per gallon right now. That takes a lot of the fun out of 300 bhp. Just out of curiosity - what do you do that will take you to Europe? Where will you be? Signature-Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net > Shouldn't it read instead: "The Big Three remain hooked on the consumer's > thirst for gas guzzlers." ? Currently to the auto makers death? Do auto makers make what most people need? President Bush has been jetting around the country amost daily to make long winded speeches in a lost cause attempt to prop up his misguided war mongering. Everytime he flies somewhere in his Air Force One SUV, he wastes more fuel than your Hummer could burn in 200 years. Not a very good example of fuel conservation, I would say. Its always do as I say, not do as I do when mouthed by fat cat politicians. That said, I would love to have a 60 mpg low slung mid-size diesel station wagon and given streamlining and light weight materials, its doable with off the shelf technology. If such a car is ever made, I doubt GM will be the one to do it given their Harley Earl mentality that still persists today. |
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