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Car Forum / GMC Cars / September 2006

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Is this the dreaded 3.1 head gasket problem

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Fred Zeuss - 22 Sep 2006 05:41 GMT
Hi,
2002 Buick Century with 3.1 V6
41000 miles

At my last oil change the GM technician reported:
"coolant low, has some oily residue in rad. Top up rad
and recovery tank and monitor. Likely a rad problem"

How likely is this a rad problem?
I have extended (Total Plus) warranty.
What should I do.
Thanks very much.
hdd - 22 Sep 2006 12:35 GMT
Sounds like the gaskets to me. Just went through this last Dec with my low
mileage '01 Grand Am 3.4. I had little pools of coolant visible also on top
of the transmission  where it attaches to the engine.

> Hi,
> 2002 Buick Century with 3.1 V6
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> What should I do.
> Thanks very much.
aarcuda69062 - 22 Sep 2006 14:40 GMT
> Hi,
> 2002 Buick Century with 3.1 V6
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> How likely is this a rad problem?

It's likely that there are multiple problems.
Possible transmission cooler leak in radiator.
Possible coolant leak at intake manifold gaskets.
Possible head gasket leak.

> I have extended (Total Plus) warranty.
> What should I do.

Have it checked more thoroughly.
Read your warranty provisions.

> Thanks very much.
Sharon K. Cooke - 22 Sep 2006 16:05 GMT
> Hi,
> 2002 Buick Century with 3.1 V6
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> What should I do.
> Thanks very much.

Where would oil come from found in the radiator, except the engine?
Leaking gasket would be a good bet.
aarcuda69062 - 22 Sep 2006 16:24 GMT
> > Hi,
> > 2002 Buick Century with 3.1 V6
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Where would oil come from found in the radiator, except the engine?

Transmission oil cooler.

> Leaking gasket would be a good bet.

Leaking gaskets on this engine are a given.
HLS@nospam.nix - 22 Sep 2006 16:33 GMT
"aarcuda69062" <nonelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:nonelson-
> > Where would oil come from found in the radiator, except the engine?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Leaking gaskets on this engine are a given.

Like Aarcuda says, you need to rule out the tranny cooler core in the
radiator.
If you get coolant back into the transmission (leaks are two ways, usually)
and you
will soon buy an tranny overhaul.

It may well be gaskets, but you need to be sure.
JRL - 22 Sep 2006 16:32 GMT
Could very well be transmission fluid in the tank. The rad could be
bad . Fluid could be leaking into th rad . Check transmission fluid
and oil levels. I bet it is the rad.

>Hi,
>2002 Buick Century with 3.1 V6
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>What should I do.
>Thanks very much.
John Horner - 24 Sep 2006 01:14 GMT
> Could very well be transmission fluid in the tank. The rad could be
> bad . Fluid could be leaking into th rad . Check transmission fluid
> and oil levels. I bet it is the rad.

Considering the very high failure rate of intake manifold gaskets on
those engines I wonder why you suspect the radiator first?

John
Woody - 22 Sep 2006 19:41 GMT
All answers you get here are pure speculation. Get it to the dealer and have
it diagnosed correctly.

> Hi,
> 2002 Buick Century with 3.1 V6
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> What should I do.
> Thanks very much.
HLS@nospam.nix - 22 Sep 2006 20:56 GMT
> All answers you get here are pure speculation. Get it to the dealer and have
> it diagnosed correctly.

Dealers a.s, dude...  You are showing your innocence.

If   'dealer' is the only word in your vocabulary, your are on the wrong
newsgroup.

But when you say  'have it diagnosed correctly', you have partially regained
some
credibility.
Mike Hunter - 23 Sep 2006 00:02 GMT
Obviously you have the greater credibility. Why in the world would one want
to take their $30,000 vehicle to a place that has all of the special tools,
equipment, as well as factory trained technicians who have instant online
access the manufactures engineering department to be diagnosed and repaired,
when he can take it to a guy with an adjustable wrench, dwell meter, vacuum
gauge and a generic manual that he got free when he completed two semesters
at DeVry ten years ago?    LOL

mike hunt

>> All answers you get here are pure speculation. Get it to the dealer and
> have
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> some
> credibility.
Woody - 23 Sep 2006 14:44 GMT
Well spoken....

> Obviously you have the greater credibility. Why in the world would one
> want to take their $30,000 vehicle to a place that has all of the special
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>> some
>> credibility.
HLS@nospam.nix - 23 Sep 2006 20:15 GMT
> Well spoken....

I wouldnt have seen My c.nts post normally, since I killfiled him long ago.

A problem like the one you describe doesn''t require a dealership, nor even
a ton of high tech equipment.

Many of us here have such sour tastes in our mouth because of GM treatment
and dealership mechanical practices that your post, at least in my mind,
immediately
indicated one of two things...either you are of My's mentality, or you are a
newbie.

Dealerships often SUCK.  Maybe even usually SUCK.

You find a good, honest, competent mechanic and you support him.  I find
good independents are usually far preferable to the dealership spunkmonkies,
and often are cheaper as well.  In general, they appreciate your business,
and
try to do a good job.
aarcuda69062 - 24 Sep 2006 04:35 GMT
> Well spoken....

Really?

I count at least 6 inaccuracies/exaggerations in his post.
Mike Marlow - 24 Sep 2006 03:10 GMT
> Obviously you have the greater credibility. Why in the world would one want
> to take their $30,000 vehicle to a place that has all of the special tools,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> gauge and a generic manual that he got free when he completed two semesters
> at DeVry ten years ago?    LOL

At least he has some credibility.  You sir, have none.

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-Mike-
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Mike Hunter - 24 Sep 2006 19:16 GMT
Ya like I care what you think   LOL

mike

>> Obviously you have the greater credibility. Why in the world would one
> want
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> At least he has some credibility.  You sir, have none.
Richie Weinberger - 22 Sep 2006 22:00 GMT
> Hi,
> 2002 Buick Century with 3.1 V6
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> What should I do.
> Thanks very much.

What do you mean by this....Top up rad
and recovery tank and monitor.
Snag - 22 Sep 2006 22:15 GMT
>> Hi,
>> 2002 Buick Century with 3.1 V6
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> What do you mean by this....Top up rad
> and recovery tank and monitor.

 Does mommy know you're playing on her computer ? From this and at least
one other response , you seem to be about 10 yrs old ...

 Damn straight I'm a biker , what of it ?
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John Horner - 24 Sep 2006 01:13 GMT
> Hi,
> 2002 Buick Century with 3.1 V6
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> What should I do.
> Thanks very much.

You could very easily have the infamous leaking intake manifold gasket.
 Oily residue in the radiator can not be caused by a radiator problem.

John
shiden_kai - 24 Sep 2006 01:35 GMT
> You could very easily have the infamous leaking intake manifold
>  gasket. Oily residue in the radiator can not be caused by a radiator
> problem.

Why would you say that?  I've never seen "one" leaking intake
manifold gasket on these engines contaminate the radiator with
oil, but I've seen "tons" of transmission coolers within the radiator
leak and cause oil contamination of the coolant.

Ian
 
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