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funkfreedom@yahoo.com - 23 Sep 2006 17:59 GMT
hi,

I have a 1995 Buick Century.
Love the interior and comfort.
It has 175,000 miles on it.
RECENTLY, I have had done :

--all new brake lines   $400
--all new tires   $250
--new alternator   $45? i forget
--new battery   $50
--new hood release cable   $25
--new rack and pinion   $380

It is needing a right wheel-bearing now.
$145 for the part...we'll probably do it here ourselves,
like all the other stuff, other than rack 'n pinion.

ALSO, it needs a new right side STRUT..
Everyone says replace BOTH!
Got a good price @ MIDAS for $250 for both.

THAT IS ANOTHER $400 RIGHT THERE.......

CRAZY! It all started with the brakelines @ $400, then on and on.

Engine is like new even at 175,000.
Have had it for 5 years this month.
ADDING all the money for parts and maintenance
over the 5 years, it averages out to about
$70 a month now.....

GOT THE CAR FOR FREE AS A GIFT.....

SHOULD I stop now before the wheel bearing, and struts?

HA! Thanks guys!!
Edwin Pawlowski - 23 Sep 2006 18:22 GMT
<funkfreedom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> I have a 1995 Buick Century.
> Love the interior and comfort.
> It has 175,000 miles on it.

> THAT IS ANOTHER $400 RIGHT THERE.......
>
> CRAZY! It all started with the brakelines @ $400, then on and on.
>
> Engine is like new even at 175,000.

> SHOULD I stop now before the wheel bearing, and struts?

I would, but I'm not you.  What are the alternatives?  Can you afford a
new(er) car?  I just got rid of my '91 Regal. If it was in good condition,
the book value would be $845.  To get it into that good condition, I would
have had to spend at least $1200, maybe a bit more.  While I was enjoying no
car payments, I traded it and got a new car, putting my '01 as the second
car now.

If I was in your circumstances, I'd drive it as long as I could without
spending more money and carry the phone number for a junkyard with me.  I
did that some years ago.  My Olds Cutlass (185k) was on its last legs.  I
left work one day, started the car, put it into gear, and it went 3 feet and
died. Did not restart . Grabbed the company pickup; stopped at my local
dealer on the way home and bought a new car.  Junk yard picked up the Olds
the next day.

Getting back to you, if buying something newer, but still used, it may be
better to stick with what you have rather than starting over on the next
vehicle.  Everything you are doing is wear stuff that any car will need at
some point.
Snag - 23 Sep 2006 19:56 GMT
> hi,
>
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>
> HA! Thanks guys!!

 I'd say for 75 bucks a month , I'd keep it . Sounds like you've replaced
most of the high dollar items , excepting motor and tranny .
 My point is that a new(er) car is going to cost you more than the
maintainance on the one you've got - plus insurance costs will likely be
higher .
 My wife's 96 Corsica has over 225k , with about 50k on a motor rebuild .
Gets good mileage , and is PAID FOR ! I spend less than 50 a month on
average for maintainance . But then I do all my own work , excepting only
auto tranny rebuilds .
Signature

Snag aka OSG #1
'76 FLH "Bag Lady"
BS132 SENS NEWT
"A hand shift is a manly shift ."
<shamelessly stolen >
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funkfreedom@yahoo.com - 23 Sep 2006 20:19 GMT
I did replace the tranny a couple years ago too !

--- $1,553

BUT ALL IN ALL, it would be about  $70 a month

x 5 years or

60 months =   $ 4,200  + gas and insurance,

if i go ahead and replace wheel bearing and both struts.

MY LOGIC is after replacing all these parts,
they are all new now,
AND IF I bought a newer USED CAR, for maybe
$ 2500 or 3,000, I would be not getting all the
NEW PARTS like mine is now or will be if
I keep it......

I think I am becoming a CAR ADDICT!
I used to have a 1970 Nova, put headers on it,
traction bars, aluminum manifold...it MOVED!!
A SLEEPER.
Had a 1969 Z28 CAMARO, bought it in 1972 or 3,
for $1,200 !!
Beautiful interior, engine with the aluminum manifold, etc,
302 cubic inch, 275 horsepower, racing cam,
4 speed Hurst linkage,
had it for about a year, started to rust on quarterpanels
 (IS ALL!!), and sold it to a guy who wholesaled cars,
for  $900 ! boy did i make a mistake there!
Prob worth $20,000 today, oh well, live and maybe learn.
Mike Hunter - 23 Sep 2006 20:43 GMT
I can not understand why anybody would put so much money into a vehicle, any
brand vehicle, with 175K on the clock?  One of my grandsons is running a
Honda with 165K on the clock that seems to brake down every two weeks and
cost him several hundreds of dollars.  It would make a lot more sense to buy
a new car, or at least one with lower mileage, with those hundreds of
dollars every month.

I offered to give him on of my cars or buy him a new car, but he wants
another Civic because 'they are good cars.'  After getting ripped off on
several Lexus' I will no longer by any car from a none domestic
manufactures.  If he wants a Civic he will need to buy it himself   ;)

mike hunt

> hi,
>
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>
> HA! Thanks guys!!
funkfreedom@yahoo.com - 23 Sep 2006 21:25 GMT
you know, partl of the reason i am writing
about this car of mine is THERAPY!

Because, on one side of it.......

I AM FED UP WITH PUTTING MONEY INTO
THIS CAR!!!!!!!!!!goddammit!

Fed up!! Little by little it sucks the money
out of my bank account!
Little by little!!!!!!!!

I'm FED UP WITH IT.
I should just go and get a newer used car,
maybe a 1998 or 1999!!

I am on a "fixed income". This is DRIVING ME
FREAKING CRAZY!!!!!

I should just drive this BOTTOMLESS MONEYPIT till it cant be driven
anymore  on its STUPID BAD WHEEL BEARING, till it GRINDS to a halt and
then i start to hear metal to metal GRINDING and maybe some smoke, no
fire please!

I AM OVER IT!!!!

I have put in over a  $1,000 in the last 4 months, to keep it going,
NOW IT NEEDS  a wheel bearing and the STRUTS!!,
and then when we replaced the stupid ball joint,
the damn cv joint-axle thing with the BOOT on it,
ripped the boot, and now grease has come out
and THAT would need to be replaced in the future when
THAT starts to grind to a smoking dead halt!!!

SHOULD I GET RID OF THIS  BEHEMOTH YET??!!!!

YOU KNOW, I THINK I WILL..

 :-)
HLS@nospam.nix - 23 Sep 2006 23:34 GMT
> YOU KNOW, I THINK I WILL..

I think I would too.  GM sucks elephant phalli.
Get yourself something that will hold up, or can be fixed reasonably, or at
least that you enjoy.
Peter - 24 Sep 2006 16:41 GMT
>you know, partl of the reason i am writing
>about this car of mine is THERAPY!
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>
>  :-)
If you need my approval to dump the mother... go ahead...cars wear out...

Matter of fact,  the highest amount of repairs are often put into a car just
before it wears out completely  i.e.  the strange parts in all systems start to fail..

your heater core,  air conditioner, power steering springs a leak,  cooling system
etc....  sounds as if this is happening with your car...time for a new one.

two choices....  you can purchase a similar vehicle which uses much the
same parts   and use your existing car as a parts supply depot....   I did this
with GM  mini-vans....  lumina, silhouette, transport.    Most of the parts are
swappable to a new vehicle.

OR  

offer your existing car for sale as a parts car

OR

drive it to a grinding halt,  get stranded somewhere and then have
to  get your car towed  ($$$$)  and have to rent a car ($$$$.).

If you buy a new car,  it will be covered under warranty,  and you will
only have to deal with the warranty issues  i.e.  repeat trips to the dealer
cause they can't fix the problem first time..... and renting a car while the
dealer ties your vehicle up for repairs  while waiting for "parts".

If you buy another used car..some things might have to be repaired but if you
get a good deal from a used car dealer with warrantly... it will be a while before
the little things go.

Life is full of choices...

Cars  don't last forever,  yours sounds as if it is at "end of life".    Get rid of
it BEFORE it continues sucking any more $$$ out of your bank account.

YOU HAVE MY APPROVAL !!!

dR. pHIL
funkfreedom@yahoo.com - 24 Sep 2006 17:19 GMT
Thanks guys!!

Alot of good ideas and opinions.

I will drive it till it cant be driven any longer.
In other words, I will get my moneys worth out of it!

I don't really want to go faster than 35 mph
with the bad wheel bearing, but I don't
need to! I am disabled right now, don't work,
all i need a car for is to go to doctor and get food,
and to stay reasonably sane right now.

The car runs other than the wheel bearing and strut,
excellently...good heat...no leaks, doesn't burn
any oil, have changed it myself over a dozen
times now...average gas mileage, about 23 to 27 i'd guess.

So, if i want to go faster than 35 mph, i'll need to
do the wheel bearing, I can buy it for $140 at AutoZone,
and my brother (...and I..   :-)  ..) would install it for "free",
after I pay him off, it wouldn't be that bad at all.

Then thats about it because the struts would be $260,
and  THAT  would be too far to go...

Maybe someday I'll get past this "poorboy" "low faith"
"tightwad" "cheapskate" attitude of mine.............
Edwin Pawlowski - 25 Sep 2006 00:19 GMT
<funkfreedom@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> So, if i want to go faster than 35 mph, i'll need to
> do the wheel bearing, I can buy it for $140 at AutoZone,
> and my brother (...and I..   :-)  ..) would install it for "free",
> after I pay him off, it wouldn't be that bad at all.

Normally, I'd not recommend the junk yard for a bearing, but it may be a
good $50 or so invested.  Worth a phone call anyway, to check it out.
funkfreedom@yahoo.com - 25 Sep 2006 21:38 GMT
Got a used WHEEL BEARING  for   $40.

It came with a rotor, and caliper, and some nice
very thin pads!

Took the caliper off, for i got new ones in last 8 months.

Took rotor off, for it was kind of rusty, got new
ones too in last 8 months anyway.

JUST TOOK out the 3 bolts from the wheel bearing
to the "frame" of the whole unit they gave me., with
my handy dandy "leverage pipe"... SNAP!!...nice.

Just cleaned off the remaining piece with the used
wheel bearing with some degreaser and WD40.....

NOW W W W ...................

.....a more difficult task is ahead of me!

That is to remove the wheel bearing from the
"unit" they gave me.........

Lord have mercy....I see some light....
Father forgive me for I have sinned......

ANY KEEN TIPS ON HOW TO remove the wheel bearing hub from the
"frame kinda thing" they gave me???

Hopefully, it won't get damaged.....

THENNN...it is time to take the front tire off the car,
take off the caliper, take of the rotor......
uncrack the 3 bolts......take out the bolts.....
THENNN get the OLD WHEEL BEARING out of there.

We did the other side about a yr + a half ago.

ALL THIS TO SAVE  $200 !!!  Worth it?
Mike Marlow - 25 Sep 2006 23:40 GMT
> ANY KEEN TIPS ON HOW TO remove the wheel bearing hub from the
> "frame kinda thing" they gave me???
>
> Hopefully, it won't get damaged.....

Just take your steering knuckle off and put the one on from the junk yard.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

uccoskun@gmail.com - 30 Sep 2006 00:14 GMT
find a nearest cheapest junk yard. the car will keep you busy however
donot try to spend any more money on it. if you find it on junkyard,
use it otherwise use it till it dies.

i personnaly believe the car problems are cronic. I mean, if a car
start to creat a problem it keeps coming.

My 97 blazer at 100km: every mounth something new, radiaotr, wipers,
fuel, alternator. not a single same thing
91 gmc safari at 270km. not a single problem for a year. (i did not
have ac though)

> > ANY KEEN TIPS ON HOW TO remove the wheel bearing hub from the
> > "frame kinda thing" they gave me???
> >
> > Hopefully, it won't get damaged.....
>
> Just take your steering knuckle off and put the one on from the junk yard.
uccoskun@gmail.com - 30 Sep 2006 00:14 GMT
find a nearest cheapest junk yard. the car will keep you busy however
donot try to spend any more money on it. if you find it on junkyard,
use it otherwise use it till it dies.

i personnaly believe the car problems are cronic. I mean, if a car
start to creat a problem it keeps coming.

My 97 blazer at 100km: every mounth something new, radiaotr, wipers,
fuel, alternator. not a single same thing
91 gmc safari at 270km. not a single problem for a year. (i did not
have ac though)

> > ANY KEEN TIPS ON HOW TO remove the wheel bearing hub from the
> > "frame kinda thing" they gave me???
> >
> > Hopefully, it won't get damaged.....
>
> Just take your steering knuckle off and put the one on from the junk yard.
funkfreedom@yahoo.com - 01 Oct 2006 13:21 GMT
I NOW have an attitude of driving it until it starts squeeking or
sqawking or smoking or whining or rumbling or rattling or barking or
screeching or sounds like this or that......and that is final....It
needs a strut, but i can live with that, and someday the broken booty
on the CV JOINT will allow vast quantities of road junk into the axle,
but, i think that is a day months away.....so, for now, i drive it and
enjoy it, and the lower gas cost.
Rodan - 01 Oct 2006 20:31 GMT
I drive it until it starts squeaking/squawking/smoking/whining/
rumbling/rattling/barking/screeching or sounds like this or that.
I can live with that.   Someday the broken booty will allow
road junk into the axle, but that is a day months away.....so
for now, i drive it and enjoy it, and the lower gas cost.
__________________________________________________

LOL.

Just turn the radio up until you can't hear the noise.
As Jeeter Lester said when one of his fenders fell off,
"It don't hurt the runnin' of it none."

Rodan.
 
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