Having a problem I need to get some info on. If anyone can give an
answer, it would be much appreciated. Please reply via email as well as
the boards, as my server doesn't keep a lot of messages, it seems.
2003 Buick Century 3.1L V6 with 4 spd automatic trans, 119,000 miles
Recently started shifting hard at times, not constant. When I had the
oil changed last weekend I had the trans fluid changed as well. Started
shifting harder, but again not constant. Yesterday on the way home, it
started shifting extremely hard, shaking the car in 1-2-3 and banging
into and out of 4th. Got it home and checked tranny fluid, it was a bit
overfilled, but not incredibly so. Parked it for the nightand borrowed
my daughter's car.
Talked to a good friend who is a Jaguar Service Manager, he told me the
controller (computer) may need reset, and recommended Lucas anti-slip
additive as a temporary measure. He said the overfill on the hydraulic
fluid wouldn't hurt anything.
I did the computer reset, no change at all, just had to reset the clock
and the presets on the radio. Took it back to the shop that did the
fluid change when they opened this morning, they checked and agreed the
fluid was high, drew out the excess and added the lucas in for me. No
change, maybe a little softer shift, but after a 15 mile test drive it
was back to square one. Also started noticing that when it downshifts
from 2nd to 1st, the car feels like its on a bumpy road for just the
time it takes to shift (which is 2-3 seconds since this started getting
worse)
Then the Service Engine Soon light came on, so on the way home from test
driving, I stopped at Autozone and had them put their tester on it. Not
sure of the code #, but it said "Torque Converter Circuit Stuck Open". ???
I called Jon (Jag man) andhe said he had never heard of this code but
would look it up and let me know what he finds. I've Googled it a few
different ways and can find nothing, and in the GM trouble codes, this
verbage doesn't show up. I'll call the dealer on Monday,but in the
meantime, wondering if anyone can shed some light on this?
Could the trouble code be causing the slippage and hard shifting?
Or the hard shifting and slipping cause the trouble code?
Am I about to invest in a new or rebuilt tranny? The hopeful answer here
is NO!
Any help much appreciated
Marty
mmontjoy at sc dot rr dot com
funkfreedom@yahoo.com - 01 Oct 2006 01:14 GMT
I had to put in a new tranny on a 3100 V6 6 Cylinder @ about 135,000
miles, 4 speed auto with the overdrive.
I really don't think you need to have a new tranny, maybe, but i doubt
it.
Why not take it to a BUICK Dealer? Might cost you $50 for an estimate,
but adding some magic fluid isn't going to do a thing, i don't think.
good luck.
Rugburn - 01 Oct 2006 01:28 GMT
> I had to put in a new tranny on a 3100 V6 6 Cylinder @ about 135,000
> miles, 4 speed auto with the overdrive.
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>
> good luck.
I'll be calling the dealer Monday, but as I noted, it's the weekend and
I'm just trying to get some info in advance.
But for reference, the anti-slip additives actually work quite well,
when just wear and tear is the problem.
Thanks
anon@idirect.ca - 01 Oct 2006 01:19 GMT
It's a Pressure Control Solenoid problem.
GM knows about,
TSB #00-07-30-002B describes the problem
Lots of discussion on these links,
http://www.automotivehelper.com/topic179354.htm
http://www.automotiveforums.com/t399190.html
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=harsh+shifting+4t65e&meta=
> Having a problem I need to get some info on. If anyone can give an
> answer, it would be much appreciated. Please reply via email as well as
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> Marty
> mmontjoy at sc dot rr dot com
anon@idirect.ca - 01 Oct 2006 01:23 GMT
Section: 07 - Transmission/Transaxle
Bulletin No.: 0O-07-30-002B
Date: July, 2002
Subject:
Slips, Harsh Upshift or Garage Shifts, Launch Shudders, Flares, Erratic
Shifts and Intermittent Concerns, DTC P1811 or P0748 Set (Replace
Pressure Control Solenoid Valve Assembly)
Models:
1997-1999 Buick Riviera
1997-2002 Buick Park Avenue
1998-2002 Buick LeSabre
1999-2002 Buick Regal
2000-2002 Buick Century
2002 Buick Rendezvous
1997-2001 Chevrolet Lumina
1997-2002 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
1999-2002 Chevrolet Venture
2000-2002 Chevrolet Impala
1997-1999 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight
1997-2002 Oldsmobile Silhouette
1998-2002 Oldsmobile Intrigue
2001-2002 Oldsmobile Aurora (3.5L)
1997-2002 Pontiac Bonneville, Grand Prix
1999-2002 Pontiac Transport/Montana
2001-2002 Pontiac Aztek
with Hydra-Matic 4T65-E (RPOs MN3, MN7, M15, M76)
Condition:
Some owners of the above vehicles with a HydraMatic 4T65-E transaxle
may comment on harsh upshifts or harsh garage shifts, soft shifts,
shudders on hard acceleration, or shifts erratic. These conditions may
appear intermittently or set a DTC P1811 or P0748. During diagnosis, a
low or high line pressure (actual versus desired) may be observed.
Cause:
The above condition may be due to any one of the following which may
affect line pressure output:
Sediment inside the pressure control (PC) solenoid valve, causing the
PC solenoid valve to mechanically bind.
Sediment in the valve body, causing the torque signal regulator valve
to stick.
Incorrect transaxle oil level
Rugburn - 01 Oct 2006 01:29 GMT
Thanks! I will be looking into this first thing Monday!
Really appreciate it!
> Section: 07 - Transmission/Transaxle
> Bulletin No.: 0O-07-30-002B
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> to stick.
> Incorrect transaxle oil level