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Car Forum / GMC Cars / October 2006

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Car will not start when hot

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Spike - 30 Oct 2006 19:27 GMT
I have an old Chev with a 350 motor. If I drive the car on hot days or
get tied up in traffic and then turn off the car it will not start for
about 20 minutes. Any ideas why? What can I do?
Thanks for your response
Mike Marlow - 30 Oct 2006 19:36 GMT
> I have an old Chev with a 350 motor. If I drive the car on hot days or
> get tied up in traffic and then turn off the car it will not start for
> about 20 minutes. Any ideas why? What can I do?
> Thanks for your response

How old is "old"?

Possible vapor lock?

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Spike - 30 Oct 2006 19:55 GMT
its in a 59 Chev, not the stock motor. What happens is the  car will
not turn over, I think the starter gets overheated.
> > I have an old Chev with a 350 motor. If I drive the car on hot days or
> > get tied up in traffic and then turn off the car it will not start for
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Possible vapor lock?
Mike Y - 30 Oct 2006 20:19 GMT
I'd run an extra wire to the starter that comes into the vehicle and attach
it to a voltmeter.

Run the car till it fails.  Then look at the voltage on the meter as you try
to start.

If it stays high, then the problem is in the starter.  Just replace it.  If
it
takes a dive to 0, then the problem is before the starter, somewhere
back the wiring.

Follow the problem back with the voltmeter.  You're going to find
where it's high at one point on the 'battery side' and low on the 'starter
side'
IF the problem is in the high current circuit.  Heck, it could be the
battery terminal is dirty.  (Or the motor block ground strap)
If the problem is at the starter solenoid, before you blame it, make sure
it's getting the start signal to kick on.  I've seen Ford solenoids that
click and appear to function but just won't work.  I loosened up the
nut holding the starter cable and tightened it back down and it worked
fine.  Turned out that the 'shaft' that you bolted to could 'twist' as you
tightened the nut, and internally move to where it wouldn't make a good
contact.  I saw the same kind of thing happen with my Dodge Caravan
with the Mitsubishi starter with the built in solenoid.  I ended up taking
the cover off the solenoid portion of the starter and found a brass bar
that made contact when energized.  Moving the nuts would cause it to
shift the contact points slightly and it would work.  For a while.  Then
fail again.  The bar was pitted, so I just flipped it over to the other
side which looked smooth and virtually new and it worked until the
vehicle was 'retired' 100K miles later.  By the way, that usually
acted like a 'thermal when it was failing.

Mike

> its in a 59 Chev, not the stock motor. What happens is the  car will
> not turn over, I think the starter gets overheated.
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> >
> > Possible vapor lock?
Sharon Cooke - 30 Oct 2006 20:28 GMT
> I have an old Chev with a 350 motor. If I drive the car on hot days or
> get tied up in traffic and then turn off the car it will not start for
> about 20 minutes. Any ideas why? What can I do?
> Thanks for your response

Some GM cars of the late '50s were susceptible to "hot starter lock".
Look on auto parts sites for a starter heat shield.
Roy - 30 Oct 2006 21:20 GMT
>> I have an old Chev with a 350 motor. If I drive the car on hot days or
>> get tied up in traffic and then turn off the car it will not start for
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Some GM cars of the late '50s were susceptible to "hot starter lock". Look
> on auto parts sites for a starter heat shield.

I'm with you on this. Sounds like heat soak to me as well. Jeg's and others
make a shield
Woody - 31 Oct 2006 01:33 GMT
My 77 Chevy van did the same thing. Especially when stopping for gas after
pulling the boat. Tapping the starter motor while someone turned the key
started it. New starter motor and solenoid fixed for the next 10 years..

>>> I have an old Chev with a 350 motor. If I drive the car on hot days or
>>> get tied up in traffic and then turn off the car it will not start for
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I'm with you on this. Sounds like heat soak to me as well. Jeg's and
> others make a shield
 
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