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Car Forum / GMC Cars / December 200604 lasabre speedo
hi, i hope you can help me with a strange problem. my 04 lasabre custom's speedo is broken. it generally doesnt work but if it moves at all, it isnt where it should be. it was a bit over 36k mile warrrenty and the dealer wouldnt say he would warrenty the work so i wont bring it to him, (or more business for that matter). any ideas/hints? the car is also the most fuild hungry, (oil, antifreeze, brake fluid), machine i have ever owned, (i have had various ones from england from the 60's - 70's)...is this common? i loved my 98 bonnieville. tia, peter "peter" <pm3e@juno.com> wrote in message > i hope you can help me with a strange problem. my 04 lasabre custom's > speedo is broken. it generally doesnt work but if it moves at all, it > isnt where it should be. it was a bit over 36k mile warrrenty and the > dealer wouldnt say he would warrenty the work so i wont bring it to him, > (or more business for that matter). any ideas/hints? Not a clue, but I had a warranty problem with only two years, but at 40k with a non-moving part (seat heater) and GM would not fix it. That is one reason I bought a Hyundai. Don't expect any help. > the car is also the most fuild hungry, (oil, antifreeze, brake fluid), > machine i have ever owned, (i have had various ones from england from the > 60's - 70's)...is this common? Very unusual from my experience. I have 120,000 on my LeSabre. I change oil at 7500 miles and only once did I have to add any between changes. Still has the same anti-freeze level, brake fluid, but the trans fluid was replaced when the tranny crapped out. > "peter" <pm3e@juno.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > with a non-moving part (seat heater) and GM would not fix it. That is one > reason I bought a Hyundai. Don't expect any help. Hyundia..5 year 60,000 mile BUMPER TO BUMPER Warranty AND 10 year 100,000 mile drivetrain warranty,plus FREE roadside assistance is the reason I WILL buy an Elantra instead of the Cobolt.... My dad just took his '01 Jimmy in for service and new brake pads. On his way home he stopped at the store to get something and the truck wouldn't re-start.Battery dead. He calls me for a boost and as I was putting the cables on I saw the terminal was cracked and leaking so I took it out and gave him a ride to Autozone . I showed the guy at the counter the battery and he said let me guess...You just had service work done at the Chevy Dealership? It seems he sees it quite often. The idiots break them all the time by overtightening the nut on the terminal when re-attaching it to the battery. I guess they remove pos. terminal before doing just about any repair or service.When he finally gets back home he noticed one of the wheels was hot so he called them and the IDIOTS said that was normal after having break pads replaced and it will go away in a couple of days. A week later the wheel is still getting hot so he calls them back and they tell him to bring it in,they check it and tell him he needs a new caliper and they will get to it in a week or so. He calls me up and I told him to take it to the independent shop I use and the mechanic there told my dad that he sees this often as well because the IDIOTS at the Chevy place don't know how to depress the the caliper without ruining it. He stops in to the Chevy Dealer after FINALLY getting his truck fixed and tell them they should go good on atleast some the repair bill as they caused the problems and of course they said "Not our fault".Another customer down the highway...a.sholes.... >> the car is also the most fuild hungry, (oil, antifreeze, brake fluid), >> machine i have ever owned, (i have had various ones from england from the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Still has the same anti-freeze level, brake fluid, but the trans fluid was > replaced when the tranny crapped out. > He stops in to the Chevy Dealer > after FINALLY getting his truck fixed and tell them they should go good on > atleast some the repair bill as they caused the problems and of course they > said "Not our fault".Another customer down the highway...a.sholes.... Welcome to the Never Again Club. The club grows every day. >> He stops in to the Chevy Dealer after FINALLY getting his truck fixed and >> tell them they should go good on atleast some the repair bill as they >> caused the problems and of course they said "Not our fault".Another >> customer down the highway...a.sholes.... > > Welcome to the Never Again Club. The club grows every day. And yet you still feel the need to bitch and moan on the GM newsgroup. Troll. >>> He stops in to the Chevy Dealer after FINALLY getting his truck fixed and >>> tell them they should go good on atleast some the repair bill as they [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > And yet you still feel the need to bitch and moan on the GM newsgroup. > Troll. it isnt my post, (the never again post), but i took it to just be sad...i am not trolling either but i am very disappointed and "never again" creeps into my mind too. it is unfortunate that the u.s. auto companys are slow to react, (they shouldnt be reacting but should be proactive), and they are in a state of denial. a little customer service would go a long way...at least in my case. i can believe i am the only one with this issue, (the speedo thing that is). peter >>>> He stops in to the Chevy Dealer after FINALLY getting his truck fixed >>>> and tell them they should go good on atleast some the repair bill as [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > way...at least in my case. i can believe i am the only one with this > issue, (the speedo thing that is). My reply was intended for John Horner, not you, or 'benick'. I apologize if it sounded like it was directed at you. As for GM, I don't really have a problem with people who don't like GM. Everyone has the right to like and dislike what they wish, however, I fail to see the purpose of insulting GM in the GM newsgroup. I, for one, don't like Toyota, but you don't see me posting in the Toyota newsgroup. Everyone has the right to like and > dislike what they wish, however, I fail to see the purpose of insulting GM > in the GM newsgroup. I, for one, don't like Toyota, but you don't see me > posting in the Toyota newsgroup. *This newsgroup is not sponsored by GM, and it is not an insult to call a spade a spade. Nobody on here is apparently a cheerleader for GM except for Mike Hunt. If Toyota has offended you, then let your voice be heard. > Everyone has the right to like and >> dislike what they wish, however, I fail to see the purpose of insulting [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > *This newsgroup is not sponsored by GM, and it is not an insult to call a > spade a spade. What is the point in coming to a newsgroup only to insult what it represents. It is called 'trolling'. > Nobody on here is apparently a cheerleader for GM except for Mike Hunt. Mike is an idiot, but I, as well as many others on here, will buy GM and only GM. > If Toyota has offended you, then let your voice be heard. I have never owned one, I just don't like the look of any of them. If you like them, fine, I don't. > What is the point in coming to a newsgroup only to insult what it > represents. It is called 'trolling'. No, it isnt trolling. This is a discussion newsgroup, not a cheerleading newsgroup. Most of us on here own, or have owned, GM cars. We still own two of them. I am concerned at the problems we have had with them over recent years, and at the general lack of support from GM in getting the problems resolved. I will feel free to discuss their failings as well as their strong points. They still DO have some strong points, particularly compared with some Fords and Chryslers. >> What is the point in coming to a newsgroup only to insult what it >> represents. It is called 'trolling'. > > No, it isnt trolling. This is a discussion newsgroup, not a cheerleading > newsgroup. This is a GM newsgroup, hence if you come here only to insult GM you are trolling. If you have problems with GM, sure, let us know them. If you only wish to insult the company, then why? Like I already said, I don't like Toyota, or Honda, so I don't go to the Toyota or Honda newsgroup's and start insulting there products. It just makes no sence. > Most of us on here own, or have owned, GM cars. > We still own two of them. That's good. I currently own 1, and it is the 9th I have owned. > I am concerned at the problems we have had with them over recent years, > and at the general lack of support from GM in getting the problems > resolved. And those are relevant concerns. However, constantly posting crap about how the company is going down the tubes (which it is not), insulting the company, and actually hoping it goes under, just pisses me off. I live near GM's Oshawa plant, and if GM were to close down, there would be MANY people around these parts without jobs. Some people don't understand that GM doesn't just employ GM's workers. Most stores would have to close up around here if the Oshawa plant shut down. > I will feel free to discuss their failings as well as their strong points. > They still DO have some strong points, particularly compared with some > Fords and Chryslers. Please feel free to discuss what you wish. Like I said already, my post was not intended towards you, it was intended towards Horner. One of the very severe problems that will be experienced, if GM goes bust, is the effect on decent and loyal American workers. This is, in some ways, similar to the Enron debacle. Freaking high level, inept, executives have bargained away the best benefits of GM. GM has screwed up BADLY. They really need to grovel to the client, to ask for forgiveness, and to come back with killer products. Silly sh.ts probably dont have the balls to do it. I HAVE HAD sh.t SUPPORT FROM GM. FULL STOP. Insult the Bastards??? These whores have given us and hundreds of thousands of American clients sh.t for products, no support, arrogance as a response. I dont want GM to fold, but I will eat a turd before I will buy another one of them. They produce sh.t, and they are arrogant in their defense of their products. ( We make sh.t products for shiteaters? Thanks, but NO THANKS!!!') FEW love GM enough to put out good money for a defective product. Now, straighten up, or freaking declare bankruptcy. Many of us dont really give a sh.t. > One of the very severe problems that will be experienced, if GM goes bust, > is the effect on decent and loyal American workers. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I HAVE HAD sh.t SUPPORT FROM GM. FULL STOP. And you believe GM is the only auto maker who gives some customer's sh.t service? You obviously didn't try hard enough to get what it was you wanted, or what you wanted was not within reason. > Insult the Bastards??? These whores have given us and hundreds of > thousands of American clients sh.t for products, > no support, arrogance as a response. If you hate there products so much, why buy them, and why come to there newsgroup? If you don't like violence, will you still go and see the newest Schwarzenegger movie? As for support, you seem to have had a bad experience. I can see why that would make you dislike the company, and I have no problem with you buying a Honda or what ever. But, why stay here and bitch and moan and insult others? I happen to like my GM products, and nothing you say is going to change that. Just like nothing I say will likley change your view. I, personally, have had resonably good service from GM dealerships. > I dont want GM to fold, but I will eat a turd before I will buy another > one of them. They produce sh.t, and they are > arrogant in their defense of their products. ( We make sh.t products for > shiteaters? Thanks, but NO THANKS!!!') And you have the right to that opinion. I just don't share it, and many others don't either. If everyone thought GM only produced sh.t, they wouldn't be selling anything. > FEW love GM enough to put out good money for a defective product. I fail to see how GM produces a 'defective product'. > Now, straighten up, or freaking declare bankruptcy. Many of us dont > really give a sh.t. And many of us do. You have to actually be *effected* by something to be bothered by it. Try thinking about other people rather then your own a.s. If you don't like GM, that's fine, piss off and don't buy there products, but there are people in this world who's livelihood depends on GM, and I happen to be one of them. >>> He stops in to the Chevy Dealer after FINALLY getting his truck fixed >>> and tell them they should go good on atleast some the repair bill as [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > owns an 01 Malibu.I'll bitch about ANY dealer that takes advantage of the > elderly so f**k off assclown .... >>>> He stops in to the Chevy Dealer after FINALLY getting his truck fixed >>>> and tell them they should go good on atleast some the repair bill as [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> owns an 01 Malibu.I'll bitch about ANY dealer that takes advantage of the >> elderly so f**k off assclown .... Hey, take it easy. My reply was directed at John Horner, not at you. Perhaps you should read replies before going ballistic. >>> He stops in to the Chevy Dealer after FINALLY getting his truck fixed >>> and tell them they should go good on atleast some the repair bill as [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > And yet you still feel the need to bitch and moan on the GM newsgroup. > Troll. If your head weren't so far up your a.s you would see I've been > posting on this group and the Chevy Truck forums for years as I own a > couple of work trucks (88 GMC 4X4,95 Silverado Z71 Ext Cab) and my boy > owns an 01 Malibu.I'll bitch about ANY dealer that takes advantage of the > elderly so f**k off assclown .... > hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > tia, > peter Having dealt with GM on various levels, I'd think they would help with something as critical as a bad speedo when miles was up but time still effective. Take it to a cooperating dealer, STAY on good terms with the service manager, and ask for help. Worst case should be you both asking for the exception thru the zone rep. Much easier to get exceptions here than when time is up but miles is still in effect. I've gotten things warrantied with your situation like trannies, underdash electronic temp.sensors on heater/ac systems, whining differentials, and intake manifold leaks(one of these was the OTHER situation where time had been up for 2 years, but mileage was just a tad over 20K--a '95 Olds Royale I had sold to a lady who was 87 when we experienced the leak that locked the engine). Luck to you. Remember to stay cool; the service manager at 'another' dealership is your friend. s > Having dealt with GM on various levels, I'd think they would help with > something as critical as a bad speedo when miles was up but time still > effective. Take it to a cooperating dealer, STAY on good terms with the > service manager, and ask for help. Worst case should be you both asking > for the exception thru the zone rep. The zone rep used to be a big help for clients. The last time I tried to contact a GM zone rep, I couldnt find one, and assumed GM had obsoleted the position. Do they still exist? "hls" <hls@nospam.nix> wrote in message > The zone rep used to be a big help for clients. The last time I tried to > contact a GM > zone rep, I couldnt find one, and assumed GM had obsoleted the position. > Do they > still exist? When I had a similar warranty problem, I wrote to the regional office that was listed in the manual. They were a big help. They suggested instead of a $560 repair, I should buy a new car and they'd give me a few bucks off. Made a lot of sense to dump a two year old car and spend $30,000 because a $15 dollar part could not be replaced. >> hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Luck to you. Remember to stay cool; the service manager at 'another' > dealership is your friend. s didnt think of the zone rep...maybe this is the way to go. thanks, peter >>> hi, >>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > thanks, > peter Hi, Peter, remember to NOT directly go above the already-uncooperative dealership's head. Do it through ANOTHER dealership. One needs all the backup he needs. s > hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > tia, > peter well i went to another dealership who. while more pleasent said no warrenty no assistance, $100 diag fee tho :). i am going to bring it to a tech school and see what they say. thanks and ttfn, peter, |
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