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Car Forum / GMC Cars / January 2007

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2003 S-10 $500 Fuel pump shot at 58K

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George Jetson - 24 Jan 2007 03:25 GMT
Thank you for your reply. 58,000 miles on a $500 fuel pump is nothing short
of a crime. You could at least had the decency to pull a gun on me and had
me put my hands in the air while you relieve me of $700.

If this is GM's stance on a poorly designed and trouble prone part, then
after 30 years of being a loyal customer, I bid you so long. I'll be buying
Japanese from now on.

Good luck to you and the UAW. I think you're going to need it.

Yours,

George Jetson

----- Original Message -----
From: <cac@chevrolet.com>
To: gjetson@spacelysprockets.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: Chevrolet S-10 Pickup Owner Assistance

> Service Request:  71-473543223
> Customer Relationship Specialist:  Jeffrey Clark
>
> Dear Mr. Jetson,
>
> Thank you for contacting the Chevrolet Customer Assistance Center.  We
> appreciate you taking the time to write us in regards to your 2003
> Chevrolet S-10.
>
> I recognize that this situation has caused you a great level of
> frustration, and I hope that you can accept my sincerest apology on behalf
> of General Motors and Chevrolet.
>
> Vehicle components may require repair or replacement over the lifetime of
> the vehicle. The lifespan (even on average) for a specific component is
> difficult to determine. There are many factors such as the environment,
> wear and tear, maintenance of the vehicle and driving habits that can
> affect the longevity of a vehicle's components.
>
> We appreciate this opportunity to address the fuel pump concerns with your
> 2003 Chevrolet S-10.
>
> Although we do understand your position, our experience has been that a
> defect attributable to the original manufacturing and assembly process
> generally makes itself apparent quite early in the life of the vehicle.
> After a vehicle has been in service for several years, many factors such
> as usage, owner maintenance, age and wear, can contribute to difficulties
> with the vehicle that are beyond the control of the manufacturer.
>
> A point is eventually reached where the manufacturer's responsibility
> ceases and any additional repairs or expenses become the responsibility of
> the owner.  Because your S-10 has been in service for approximately 4+
> years and 58,000 miles, we are unable to extend warranty service or cost
> assistance for this repair.
>
> If you should need to contact us in the future, simply reply to this
> message or call our Chevrolet Customer Assistance Center at
> 1-800-222-1020.  Customer Relationship Specialists are available Monday
> through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m., Eastern Time.
>
> For more information regarding the maintenance and care of your vehicle,
> please visit www.mygmlink.com.  This free online service offers vehicle
> and ownership-related information and tools tailored to your specific
> Chevrolet.
>
> Again, thank you for contacting Chevrolet.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> The Chevrolet Consumer Support Team
>
> Chevrolet supports Buckle Up America.  We encourage you, your family and
> your friends to always Buckle Up.
>
> Service Request# 71-473543223
>
> [SR:71-473543223]
>
> [THREAD ID:1-7TYBWR]
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From:  cac@chevrolet.com
> Sent:  1/23/2007 07:08:56 PM
> To:  cac@chevrolet.com
> Subject:  Chevrolet S-10 Pickup Owner Assistance
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Nature of concern   : VehicleConcern
> Message             : After only 58,000 miles our truck would not start
> and the fuel pump module had to be replaced. The replacement part was
> slightly over $500.00 not including labor. 58,000 miles is not much usage
> for a $500 part. Will I have to replace it again in 58,000 miles?
>
> I would like to be considered for reimbursement for this obviously
> deficient and defective part.
>
> I have been a lifelong GM customer, I am 54. I will be seriously
> considering other manufacturers in the future based upon my repair
> concerns with this vehicle.
>
> Thank you.
>
> George Jetson
>
> Vehicle             : S-10 Pickup 2003
> VIN                 : 1DGG456789
> Dealer              :
> Authorized dealer?  : <UDValue6/>
> Dealer contact      :
> Last visit          :
> Current mileage     : 58,000
>
> Name                : George Jetson
> Email               : gjetson@spacelysprockets.com
> Address             :
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>                    : <Zip4/>
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> Phone contact?      : phone
> When to contact     : morning
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benick - 24 Jan 2007 04:42 GMT
Join the NEVER AGAIN club George. I too have given up on GMC. You think you
got problems,my son has an '01 Malibu. NOTHING BUT TROUBLE and a big "to
bad" from the dealership. I bought my wife an '06 Hyundai Elantra for
Christmas. $13,950 with a $1,000 rebate,loaded 4 door auto., 5 year 60,000
mile BUMPER TO BUMPER Warranty,10 year 100,000 mile drivetrain warranty and
for 1400 bucks I bought the extended warranty which extended the Bumper To
Bumper Warranty out to 10 years 100,000 miles with FREE roadside assistance
including food and lodging if away from home. GREAT car and GREAT people at
the dealership...
.

> Thank you for your reply. 58,000 miles on a $500 fuel pump is nothing
> short
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Ralph Cramden - 24 Jan 2007 05:14 GMT
Big club, getting bigger all the time ;)

> Join the NEVER AGAIN club George. I too have given up on GMC. You think
> you got problems,my son has an '01 Malibu. NOTHING BUT TROUBLE and a big
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80 Knight - 24 Jan 2007 09:54 GMT
You're fuel pump goes after 58,000 miles and 4 years, and you expect GM to
pay for it? Maybe you should have tried an independent shop, and not a
dealership. I have had fuel pumps replaced for under $100, and bought the
pumps themselves for around $150 (both Canadian prices). Your $700 price
figure is ridiculous.

> Thank you for your reply. 58,000 miles on a $500 fuel pump is nothing
> short
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Nate Nagel - 24 Jan 2007 11:02 GMT
What's the warranty on an S-10?  I just thought it would have been at
least 70,000 miles or so.

nate

> You're fuel pump goes after 58,000 miles and 4 years, and you expect GM to
> pay for it? Maybe you should have tried an independent shop, and not a
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Edwin Pawlowski - 24 Jan 2007 11:22 GMT
> What's the warranty on an S-10?  I just thought it would have been at
> least 70,000 miles or so.
>
> nate

GM used to be 3/36000 and went to 4/48000 in the 2007 model year, and now is
5/100000 on drivetrain at least.  Tat is one reason they lost my business on
my purchase in September.  I had non-mechanical things to before the 3
years, but after 36000 miles. They told me to buy a new car.  I did. Hyundai
Sonata.
Bob Urz - 24 Jan 2007 13:08 GMT
> You're fuel pump goes after 58,000 miles and 4 years, and you expect GM to
> pay for it? Maybe you should have tried an independent shop, and not a
> dealership. I have had fuel pumps replaced for under $100, and bought the
> pumps themselves for around $150 (both Canadian prices). Your $700 price
> figure is ridiculous.

You have not priced at in Tank modular fuel pump lately have you.
Its NOT just the little in line pump.

Bob
80 Knight - 24 Jan 2007 14:31 GMT
>> You're fuel pump goes after 58,000 miles and 4 years, and you expect GM
>> to pay for it? Maybe you should have tried an independent shop, and not a
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> You have not priced at in Tank modular fuel pump lately have you.
> Its NOT just the little in line pump.

Had to replace the fuel pump on a Grand Prix twice. Tank had to be dropped
out of the car both times. The prices I quoted are accurate.
No offence intended.
Mike Marlow - 24 Jan 2007 15:30 GMT
> You have not priced at in Tank modular fuel pump lately have you.
> Its NOT just the little in line pump.
>
> Bob

Hi Bob:

Most everybody here is very familiar with the in-tank fuel pumps.  They've
been an issue with GM vehicles for over 10 years now.  I think the OP's
experience with a failure at 58,000 miles is quite a bit on the low side,
but failures of these pumps (and not just GM pumps) is a well established
fact.  Generally speaking the GM pumps can be had on the aftermarket for
under $200, and often quite a bit lower than that.  It does depend on the
model.

Since the OP's experience is so much out of line with the norm, I think I'd
be going to a salvage yard if I were him.  These pumps generally go well
upwards of 200,000 miles and often beyond.  He would be making a reasonably
safe bet to go with a salvage unit in my opinion.

All that said, I am really becoming a believer that cars today should all
carry the kind of warranty that Hyundai puts out.  There just isn't any
reason for most of the typical failures we see across product lines these
days.  So much of it is just bad design or bad QC.  Neither of those is
something I believe the consumer should bear the cost of.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

George Jetson - 24 Jan 2007 16:18 GMT
Repaired at a local shop with a non_GM pump. The fuel pump on our Grand Am
was much cheaper as well.

http://www.partstrain.com/products/ShopEngine/Fuel_Pump/2003~CHEVROLET~S10~4~2.2
~S10P--010.html


Perhaps a little research would serve you well in the future, unless you
enjoy looking like an idiot, in which case carry on.

Jim

> You're fuel pump goes after 58,000 miles and 4 years, and you expect GM to
> pay for it? Maybe you should have tried an independent shop, and not a
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80 Knight - 24 Jan 2007 18:13 GMT
The link you provided  points to a $312.00 fuel pump. How did yours cost you
$500?
By the way, if all it takes for a "30 year loyal customer" to change to
imports is a fuel pump gone bad, then I'm not the idiot here, Jim.

> Repaired at a local shop with a non_GM pump. The fuel pump on our Grand Am
> was much cheaper as well.
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GlassVial - 25 Jan 2007 15:47 GMT
>The link you provided  points to a $312.00 fuel pump. How did yours cost you
>$500?
>By the way, if all it takes for a "30 year loyal customer" to change to
>imports is a fuel pump gone bad, then I'm not the idiot here, Jim.

Dealer markup ;)

I saw the pump for about $265 on partsamerica's website, regardless,
highway robbery.

-GV
Grappletech - 25 Jan 2007 20:50 GMT
You should shop around to get the best price.  310 is a lot, but if you had
a Mercedes, it'd probably be 800 or something.  Take what you spent on the
S10 and average it out.  Is stuff constantly breaking?  Or is this just an
isolated incident?  
 
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