U.S. automakers may split ranks in contract talks
http://www.ohio.com/business/9381491.html
Health care costs are key for GM, Ford; quick savings is Chrysler goal
By Jeff Bennettand Jeff Green Bloomberg News Service
Published on Sunday, Aug 26, 2007
A split in the ranks of the three U.S. automakers could jeopardize
efforts by General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co. to save $2.5 billion
a year in health care costs.
For decades, the United Auto Workers union has wrung almost identical
agreements from GM, Ford and Chrysler as the union added benefits or
agreed to concessions.
Maybe not this year. GM and Ford want to cut costs by transferring
retiree health benefits to a union-run fund. Chrysler LLC, now owned by
the privately run Cerberus Capital Management LP, has different
priorities, according to people with knowledge of the situation. The
smallest of the three automakers needs to negotiate more immediate
savings to raise cash for operations, said the people, who don't want to
be named because the discussions aren't public.
The divided front might make it harder for automakers to get the
concessions they want from the UAW, which represents 180,681 workers, or
about a third of the companies' global work forces.
GM and Ford, the biggest U.S. automakers, need to stanch losses and meet
investors' expectations for successful talks that had helped their
shares gain more than 10 percent this year before the recent global
stock decline. By contrast, Chrysler is focusing on short-term cash flow.
''Chrysler is really the wild card because of private-equity ownership
and the possibility they want to maximize short-term returns on a
minimum investment,'' said Gary Chaison, a professor of industrial
relations at Clark University in Worcester, Mass.
The UAW is in talks with GM, Ford and Chrysler to replace four-year
contracts that expire Sept. 14. GM spokesman Dan Flores and Ford's
Marcey Evans declined to comment on negotiating strategies.
Chrysler is ''clearly focused on cash'' in the talks, said Al Iacobelli,
vice president of union relations at Chrysler Group, on July 20. ''That
will be a center point of our discussions.''
The companies have exchanged preliminary offers with the union, people
familiar with the talks said without providing details.
''The pressure at Chrysler is to cut costs quickly, and they do not have
the same pressures as GM and Ford,'' said Bill Smith, president of Smith
Asset Management in New York, which holds about 70,000 GM shares. A
union contract with unique provisions for Chrysler ''could be dire
consequences for both GM and Ford.''
Retiree health-care liabilities totaled $64 billion at GM at the end of
last year and $31 billion at Ford, according to company filings. The
three U.S.-based automakers spent $12 billion last year on medical care
for 2 million employees, retirees and dependents, GM CEO Rick Wagoner
said in June.
The benefits contribute to a labor-cost gap with Toyota Motor Corp.,
which has few retirees and a nonunion work force in the United States.
The U.S. automakers say they pay $25 to $30 per hour more than Toyota
for American labor.
The gap helped Toyota, Nissan Motor Co. and Honda Motor Co. earn an
average of $3,814 more in profit per vehicle last year than GM, Ford and
Chrysler, analyst Laurie Harbour-Felax of Chicago-based Stout Risius
Ross Inc. said this month.
GM, Ford and Chrysler lost a combined $15 billion last year, while
Toyota, poised to overtake GM as the world's largest automaker in 2007,
made a profit of about $14 billion.
GM and Ford would benefit from shifting health care costs to union-run
funds because the obligations amount to negative net shareholder value
under new accounting rules.
Shifting to a health care fund would add as much as 73 cents a share to
GM's earnings and 25 cents a share at Ford, while adding a combined $2.5
billion net of the costs to pay for the funds to the automakers' cash
flow by 2010, JPMorgan & Chase & Co. analyst Himanshu Patel wrote in a
June report from New York.
A split in the ranks of the three U.S. automakers could jeopardize
efforts by General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co. to save $2.5 billion
a year in health care costs.
For decades, the United Auto Workers union has wrung almost identical
agreements from GM, Ford and Chrysler as the union added benefits or
agreed to concessions.
Maybe not this year. GM and Ford want to cut costs by transferring
retiree health benefits to a union-run fund. Chrysler LLC, now owned by
the privately run Cerberus Capital Management LP, has different
priorities, according to people with knowledge of the situation. The
smallest of the three automakers needs to negotiate more immediate
savings to raise cash for operations, said the people, who don't want to
be named because the discussions aren't public.
The divided front might make it harder for automakers to get the
concessions they want from the UAW, which represents 180,681 workers, or
about a third of the companies' global work forces.
GM and Ford, the biggest U.S. automakers, need to stanch losses and meet
investors' expectations for successful talks that had helped their
shares gain more than 10 percent this year before the recent global
stock decline. By contrast, Chrysler is focusing on short-term cash flow.
''Chrysler is really the wild card because of private-equity ownership
and the possibility they want to maximize short-term returns on a
minimum investment,'' said Gary Chaison, a professor of industrial
relations at Clark University in Worcester, Mass.
The UAW is in talks with GM, Ford and Chrysler to replace four-year
contracts that expire Sept. 14. GM spokesman Dan Flores and Ford's
Marcey Evans declined to comment on negotiating strategies.
Chrysler is ''clearly focused on cash'' in the talks, said Al Iacobelli,
vice president of union relations at Chrysler Group, on July 20. ''That
will be a center point of our discussions.''
The companies have exchanged preliminary offers with the union, people
familiar with the talks said without providing details.
''The pressure at Chrysler is to cut costs quickly, and they do not have
the same pressures as GM and Ford,'' said Bill Smith, president of Smith
Asset Management in New York, which holds about 70,000 GM shares. A
union contract with unique provisions for Chrysler ''could be dire
consequences for both GM and Ford.''
Retiree health-care liabilities totaled $64 billion at GM at the end of
last year and $31 billion at Ford, according to company filings. The
three U.S.-based automakers spent $12 billion last year on medical care
for 2 million employees, retirees and dependents, GM CEO Rick Wagoner
said in June.
The benefits contribute to a labor-cost gap with Toyota Motor Corp.,
which has few retirees and a nonunion work force in the United States.
The U.S. automakers say they pay $25 to $30 per hour more than Toyota
for American labor.
The gap helped Toyota, Nissan Motor Co. and Honda Motor Co. earn an
average of $3,814 more in profit per vehicle last year than GM, Ford and
Chrysler, analyst Laurie Harbour-Felax of Chicago-based Stout Risius
Ross Inc. said this month.
GM, Ford and Chrysler lost a combined $15 billion last year, while
Toyota, poised to overtake GM as the world's largest automaker in 2007,
made a profit of about $14 billion.
GM and Ford would benefit from shifting health care costs to union-run
funds because the obligations amount to negative net shareholder value
under new accounting rules.
Shifting to a health care fund would add as much as 73 cents a share to
GM's earnings and 25 cents a share at Ford, while adding a combined $2.5
billion net of the costs to pay for the funds to the automakers' cash
flow by 2010, JPMorgan & Chase & Co. analyst Himanshu Patel wrote in a
June report from New York.
Chevy Man - 27 Aug 2007 12:31 GMT
Maybe the big 3 could eleminate the CEO pay and save enough to pay the
actual workers a decent benefit package. After all without workers they
would make nothing and have nobody to buy their products. I am tired of
hearing Corperations whine about labor cost when they are getting tax cuts
and benefits and still making MILLIONS...............................
> U.S. automakers may split ranks in contract talks
> http://www.ohio.com/business/9381491.html
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> by 2010, JPMorgan & Chase & Co. analyst Himanshu Patel wrote in a June
> report from New York.
Brent - 27 Aug 2007 15:36 GMT
> Maybe the big 3 could eleminate the CEO pay and save enough to pay the
> actual workers a decent benefit package. After all without workers they
> would make nothing and have nobody to buy their products. I am tired of
> hearing Corperations whine about labor cost when they are getting tax cuts
> and benefits and still making MILLIONS...............................
CEO's are gonna make CEO pay, and they don't make that much money
anyway, a 20 million dollar salary to run a corporation that does 50
BILLION dollars a year in business. A line worker making $29/hr
responsible for putting a nut on a bolt doesn't have much of a reason to
complain IMO. Walmart pays $7/hr with no benefits for that job.
GM needs to build good cars that people actually want. They don't
currently do that. They put all their eggs in the truck/SUV market and
left the car market to the Japanese who happily took it and apparently
make plenty of money at it. Something GM cannot do.
b
Chevy Man - 28 Aug 2007 02:29 GMT
Wal Mart is a prime example of corperate greed. As for a person putting on a
bolt. I would imagine it would get old fast especially after the first
couple of hours and then there is only 6 more hours to go. Not to mention
only 30 more years of service.Sound like fun to you or does it sound like
someone trying to make a decent living? I am sure these people putting on
bolts have children and a house and a car they use their paycheck to pay
for. They probably go to church and shop at wal mart too. Maybe some of the
bean counters should stop and wonder who will need them when all the labor
has gone.
ez
>> Maybe the big 3 could eleminate the CEO pay and save enough to pay the
>> actual workers a decent benefit package. After all without workers they
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> b
David Starr - 28 Aug 2007 22:14 GMT
>Wal Mart is a prime example of corperate greed. As for a person putting on a
>bolt. I would imagine it would get old fast especially after the first
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>has gone.
>ez
Even the simplest job on the line involves a lot more than putting on a bolt.
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coachrose13@hotmail.com - 28 Aug 2007 02:27 GMT
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> flow by 2010, JPMorgan & Chase & Co. analyst Himanshu Patel wrote in a
> June report from New York.
I bet you're a lot of fun to be around when your neighbor's house
burns to the ground.
Jim Higgins - 28 Aug 2007 03:30 GMT
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> I bet you're a lot of fun to be around when your neighbor's house
> burns to the ground.
This is reality today, wake up.