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Car Forum / GMC Cars / October 2007

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<RJ> - 26 Oct 2007 02:49 GMT
They couldn't just use friction-hold wheel covers on my BUICK.
Instead, some yo-yo at GM designed "special, double-threaded wheel nuts"
You attach the wheel covers to these with plastic nuts.

This works well, if you never change the wheel !

Unfortunately, whenever I have the tires rotated,
some numb-nuts kid takes the air-wrench to the plastic nuts,
and strips them all !

I don't know how many replacements I've bought at the GM dealer......

GM's been doin' wheels a long long time.
They couldn't leave well-enough alone.

<rj>
80 Knight - 26 Oct 2007 03:19 GMT
> They couldn't just use friction-hold wheel covers on my BUICK.
> Instead, some yo-yo at GM designed "special, double-threaded wheel nuts"
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> GM's been doin' wheels a long long time.
> They couldn't leave well-enough alone.

How is it GM's fault that the mechanic you take your car too doesn't know
how to use a ratchet?
Big Al - 26 Oct 2007 04:28 GMT
>> They couldn't just use friction-hold wheel covers on my BUICK.
>> Instead, some yo-yo at GM designed "special, double-threaded wheel nuts"
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> How is it GM's fault that the mechanic you take your car too doesn't know
> how to use a ratchet?

My 99 and 02 Cavaliers both are like that. They strip mine too:) But on
mine, the plastic caps are just a decoration, the actual lug nut holds the
wheel cover. And, they all make noise. Had to tie the wheel cover on the 99
with tie wraps.

Al
80 Knight - 26 Oct 2007 06:02 GMT
>>> They couldn't just use friction-hold wheel covers on my BUICK.
>>> Instead, some yo-yo at GM designed "special, double-threaded wheel nuts"
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> wheel cover. And, they all make noise. Had to tie the wheel cover on the
> 99 with tie wraps.

Oh, I fully admit it is possible to damage the plastic nuts.  My Bonnie has
the same style as your Cavalier, with a metal lug nut, and then a plastic
cap covering it, so it looks all shiny.  I usually just grab a few whenever
I am out at the scrap yard, that way if any break, I have spares.
Mike Marlow - 26 Oct 2007 12:37 GMT
> They couldn't just use friction-hold wheel covers on my BUICK.
> Instead, some yo-yo at GM designed "special, double-threaded wheel nuts"
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> GM's been doin' wheels a long long time.
> They couldn't leave well-enough alone.

Damn - I think you're the first one I've heard complain of that.  You can't
strip them by taking them off and if "numb-nuts kids" are taking an
air-wrench to your wheel covers, I'd be finding a more competent shop to
take my car to.

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<RJ> - 26 Oct 2007 14:09 GMT
>> GM's been doin' wheels a long long time.
>> They couldn't leave well-enough alone.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>air-wrench to your wheel covers, I'd be finding a more competent shop to
>take my car to.

You only find these things out AFTER they've screwed it up.

By then, the damage's been done.

My complaint is that GM had a wheel cover that worked,
and they changed it for a process that could be easily damaged.
That's NOT progress.
<rj>
Mike Marlow - 26 Oct 2007 15:53 GMT
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:37:59 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
> <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> and they changed it for a process that could be easily damaged.
> That's NOT progress.

I don't mind the ones you're talking about - I think they work fine.  The
ones I really hated were the ones in the early nineties that used the loose
fitting hub that secured under three lug nuts and then the wheel cover
screwed to it using a special tool.  What a Rube Goldberg that was.

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Tim - 28 Oct 2007 14:00 GMT
My LeSabre had those nuts on it. They had a small indented hole and a
plastic wrench that was used to remove it. Problem was the wrench would
strip out the hole making it long gated and it was a mess to get them off
after that. I found nothing that would solve this problem and if they
stripped along side the road you had a really problem. My solution was take
off the wire wheel cover and replace with something else.

>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:37:59 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
>> <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> loose fitting hub that secured under three lug nuts and then the wheel
> cover screwed to it using a special tool.  What a Rube Goldberg that was.
Mike Hunter - 26 Oct 2007 17:53 GMT
Seems to me, the numb-nuts kid that took the air-wrench to the plastic nuts
and striped
them ALL, is the problem.   HE be should have paid for replacements HE got
from the GM dealer.

If he had, I bet HE would not have needed to buy another nut. let alone
another set of nuts  LOL

mike

> They couldn't just use friction-hold wheel covers on my BUICK.
> Instead, some yo-yo at GM designed "special, double-threaded wheel nuts"
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> <rj>
Steve M - 26 Oct 2007 18:00 GMT
The 05' Taurus had the same design on the hubcaps.  I've had them come loose
just driving down the road.  Also, the ford mechanic forgot to tighten them
once on it and one of them fell off.  Of course there was no charge to get
another hubcap.
 Plastic hubcaps and covers have been falling off of cars since they were
invented.  I don't think it's going to change now.

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Steve M.

> Seems to me, the numb-nuts kid that took the air-wrench to the plastic
> nuts and striped
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>>
>> <rj>
Mike Hunter - 26 Oct 2007 19:06 GMT
Not to worry few cars have hubcaps today, even among cars under 20K   ;)

mike

> The 05' Taurus had the same design on the hubcaps.  I've had them come
> loose just driving down the road.  Also, the ford mechanic forgot to
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>>>
>>> <rj>
Harry Face - 26 Oct 2007 22:52 GMT
17 years and 310,483 miles and I have 16 of the original wheel covers
lug nuts on my Bonneville.............the key is to bring the car in for
tire service without the wheel covers on.

The lug nut caps on my Buick are aluminum but the don't hold anything in
place, they just cover the lug nut thats holding the alumunum wheel on.

Good luck

harryface
91 Bonneville 310,483
05 Park Avenue 63,343
HLS - 27 Oct 2007 13:02 GMT
"<RJ>" <baranick@localnet.com> wrote in message
> Unfortunately, whenever I have the tires rotated,
> some numb-nuts kid takes the air-wrench to the plastic nuts,
> and strips them all !

IMO, impact wrenches should not be allowed near a lugnut.
I specify this up front.
Nate Nagel - 27 Oct 2007 13:48 GMT
> "<RJ>" <baranick@localnet.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> IMO, impact wrenches should not be allowed near a lugnut.
> I specify this up front.

There's no problem with someone using an impact wrench WHO KNOWS HOW TO
USE IT PROPERLY.

The trick is finding that person...

just be glad you don't have a Porsche, those aluminum (really!) lug nuts
aren't cheap to replace.

nate

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