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Car Forum / GMC Cars / October 2007

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1987 Olds Cutlass with 40,000 miles headliner falling

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Deck - 26 Oct 2007 21:44 GMT
I understand this is a GM thing that happens to chevys, olds, pontiacs and
buicks?? anyone know of a FIX??

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N8N - 26 Oct 2007 22:24 GMT
> I understand this is a GM thing that happens to chevys, olds, pontiacs and
> buicks?? anyone know of a FIX??

Nope.  take it to a trim shop they can probably replace for less than
$150.  Any attempt to glue it up is doomed to failure if it's the
mouse fur over foam material that I'm thinking of; the foam itself has
disintegrated, you must replace the material.  VW used this material
for a few years as well, it sucked on their cars too.  I replaced the
headliner in my '84 GTI with simple black sheet vinyl, looked way
better than red mouse fur ever did and was easy to clean, didn't trap
odors, etc. - just another thought.  If you go down that road remove
the headliner shell from the car, remove all traces of old crumbling
foam, and use a good quality spray adhesive or contact cement to hold
the material in place.  If you have a good fabric store they may even
stock headliner material if you feel ambitious.

good luck

nate
Deck - 26 Oct 2007 22:41 GMT
the headliner itself still looks great, always been in the garage,  so far
I have been able to stick a few hundred thumbtacks in it!

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Harry Face - 26 Oct 2007 22:46 GMT
In agreement with what Nate said. I replaced the headliner in my
Bonneville ( in 2003) with one from JoAnne Fabric's.
The light grey color was almost a 100 % match to the original.

What happens is the foam turns to dust and that is why the headliner
material sags down.

Also don't forget about the side trim panels on the roof quarter, those
are covered with the same material --and maybe your sunvisor are too.

3M Super Trim Adhesive (for headliners ) worked great, but you need
about 4 cans, minimum.

Good Luck

harryface
91 Bonneville 310,483
05 Park Avenue 63,343
warrenry - 27 Oct 2007 11:46 GMT
Our 90 Cavalier 2dr started sagging on my head. Took it to a shop gave
them $150,  They also did the visors.

Now the 89 Cavalier wagon is sagging, the visors need to be done to.
They said $220  on the wagon. It is worth the money because the visors
have to be GLUED and SEWN. Hope the info helps.

We live in NC so the cars do not rust. So if they both last another 18
years that will get us through. Maybe a lottery win is in the cards,
then we can hire a driver with his own car that also has a sagging
headliner. Should have purchased a Yugo.

Warren
Jim Higgins - 27 Oct 2007 11:51 GMT
> Our 90 Cavalier 2dr started sagging on my head. Took it to a shop gave
> them $150,  They also did the visors.
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> Warren

Or a Toyota/Honda.
Joe3301955@aol.com - 28 Oct 2007 11:28 GMT
> I understand this is a GM thing that happens to chevys, olds, pontiacs and
> buicks?? anyone know of a FIX??
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Any attempt to glue is doom to failure is true.   I used a staple gun
and put a staple about every 10 inches or so.  It kept the headliner
out the way for good.
James Goforth - 30 Oct 2007 08:30 GMT
In the past I have acquired these fasteners with a clear,
thumbtack-sized head on them and a sharp corkscrew type shank which was
intended for sagging headliners, came about 15 in a package, they never
came loose and didn't even look that bad.   The edges of the head were
splined so you could easily screw them in with your fingers, took about
5 minutes to do, worked on an otherwise pretty decent 82 Regal I once
had, looked good enough to leave it at that.  
 Don't know if they're available anymore as I haven't seen them in
awhile, but haven't looked for them either.
 But if the vehicle is a really nice one the other suggestions might be
better for you.
 
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