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Car Forum / Honda Cars / September 2004

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95 civic coupe fuel economy

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abc - 06 Sep 2004 20:55 GMT
i'm trying to improve the fuel economy on my 95 civic coupe auto   by
changing to smaller tyres. best i can get is 36mpg with stock  15"
alloys.  I need to get at least 40mpg if possible. I was wondering if
anyone knows if 13" or 14" alloys would fit. I think these were
standard on the hatchback models. Thanks
aljudy - 06 Sep 2004 21:40 GMT
Are you putting us on?   Smaller tires will appear to be giving you more
mpg, but the reality is that the mpg's will be no different.  Basically,
smaller tires will show falsely higher speed and will show falsely more
miles traveled, unless you also change the speedometer gears to adjust for
the smaller tires. This is no way to get more real mpg...  Al

> i'm trying to improve the fuel economy on my 95 civic coupe auto   by
> changing to smaller tyres. best i can get is 36mpg with stock  15"
> alloys.  I need to get at least 40mpg if possible. I was wondering if
> anyone knows if 13" or 14" alloys would fit. I think these were
> standard on the hatchback models. Thanks
Carl Saiyed - 06 Sep 2004 22:41 GMT
You might be able to pick up an extra mpg or two by doing a very
complete tune up (depends how over-due it is), an alignment, get tires
with less width, and drive slower. I agree with the other poster that
smaller wheels do nothing but make you *think* your mileage is better..

Carl

> i'm trying to improve the fuel economy on my 95 civic coupe auto   by
> changing to smaller tyres. best i can get is 36mpg with stock  15"
> alloys.  I need to get at least 40mpg if possible. I was wondering if
> anyone knows if 13" or 14" alloys would fit. I think these were
> standard on the hatchback models. Thanks
bootch - 07 Sep 2004 15:40 GMT
> i'm trying to improve the fuel economy on my 95 civic coupe auto   by
> changing to smaller tyres. best i can get is 36mpg with stock  15"
> alloys.  I need to get at least 40mpg if possible. I was wondering if
> anyone knows if 13" or 14" alloys would fit. I think these were
> standard on the hatchback models. Thanks

Yes, smaller wheels would make the odometer show greater than one mile
over a one mile measured course.  So you it would appear that you were
getting better mpg.

In fact, you might get real better gas mileage if you went to larger
wheels.  They would make your engine rpm's slower to go the same real
speed (again, your speedometer/odometer would be incorrect), and the
engine might run more economically at lower rpms.  But if you have a
manual transmission, you might be able to run at lower rpms without
changing wheels.

Your best bets is to change your driving habits:  conserve momentum,
brake as easily as you safely can, accelerate slowly.  Pretend you're
a limo driver and are concerned about the comfort of your passengers.
Be at one with the calm and serenity of your Honda.

To answer about wheels, some of the old CRX's had 13" alloy wheels,
but not in the more modern styles.  They might not fit over the brakes
if the brakes are bigger on the Honda's with larger wheels.
Dan  Beaton - 07 Sep 2004 19:17 GMT
The original poster never said anything about tire size, only wheel
size. A smaller wheel will take a narrower, higher profile tire. A
narrow tire translates to less rolling resistance, and therefore
better fuel economy. Increasing tire pressure can also cut rolling
resistance, but can increase tread wear (in the center of the tire)
and decrease handling.

There are lots of things that can be done to improve fuel economy
such as lowering ride height, putting skirts on the rear wheels,
filling body seams, taping off openings into the hood, fitting a sleek
pan underneath the car and so on, but they are not practical in the
sense of giving you a return on your investment. If the objective is
to treat this as a hobby, or a science experiment, you can have
lots of fun.

Dan

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>> i'm trying to improve the fuel economy on my 95 civic coupe auto   by
>> changing to smaller tyres. best i can get is 36mpg with stock  15"
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> but not in the more modern styles.  They might not fit over the brakes
> if the brakes are bigger on the Honda's with larger wheels.
bootch - 07 Sep 2004 20:30 GMT
> i'm trying to improve the fuel economy on my 95 civic coupe auto   by
> changing to smaller tyres. best i can get is 36mpg with stock  15"
> alloys.  I need to get at least 40mpg if possible. I was wondering if
> anyone knows if 13" or 14" alloys would fit. I think these were
> standard on the hatchback models. Thanks

Yes, smaller wheels would make the odometer show greater than one mile
over a one mile measured course.  So you it would appear that you were
getting better mpg.

In fact, you might get real better gas mileage if you went to larger
wheels.  They would make your engine rpm's slower to go the same real
speed (again, your speedometer/odometer would be incorrect), and the
engine might run more economically at lower rpms.  But if you have a
manual transmission, you might be able to run at lower rpms without
changing wheels.

Your best bets is to change your driving habits:  conserve momentum,
brake as easily as you safely can, accelerate slowly.  Pretend you're
a limo driver and are concerned about the comfort of your passengers.
Be at one with the calm and serenity of your Honda.

To answer about wheels, some of the old CRX's had 13" alloy wheels,
but not in the more modern styles.  They might not fit over the brakes
if the brakes are bigger on the Honda's with larger wheels.
 
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