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Car Forum / Honda Cars / November 20042001 Accord Coupe Rear Rotor Replacement
Hi all, I just took my 2001 Accord Coupe EX-V6 in for rear brake pad replacement. The dealer told me that my rear rotors need to be replaced as well - I only have ~58,000KM (or about 35K miles). I find it a bit surprising that I need ot replace my rotors so quickly. The car is driven every other day, and most of the time it sits in my garage. I live in Toronto Canada so maybe that'll give you an idea how the weather is like (Hot in the summer, cool in the fall, cold in the winters). On average I get about 250KM a week. Could leaving the car in the garage so much cause the rotors to wear out prematurely? The service technican coulnd't come up with a concrete reason as to why they would wear out so early besides: -Driving Habits -Leaving the car outside/inside for extended periods of time (rust/dew build up?) -Inconsistent service (Not the case... i take my car in at the recommended periods regularly) I had always thought rotors would last 80,000KM to 120,000KM before they need to be replaced. Anyhow, I'm just wondering if 58,000KM is a bit early for a rear rotor replacement and if other 2001 Accord owners have had their rotors replaced so early(?) as well. Thanks.  SignatureLucas Tam (REMOVEnntp@rogers.com) Please delete "REMOVE" from the e-mail address when replying. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/coolspot18/ My '94 Civic with 168 000 km on it still has the original rotors front and back. Having the rotors worn out at 58 000 km seems strange. Doing a brake job is easy money for the shop, and it is hard for most customers to say that they don't want it done if the shop wants to do it. In my limited experience, cars with automatic transmissions wear out brakes more quickly than stickshifts do. I am guessing you have an automatic. How many times have you replaced the rear brake pads? Any chance that they were worn out and that the backer was scraping against the rotor? Did the shop say why they were replacing the rotors? Were they warped or were they just worn too thin for continued service? > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Please delete "REMOVE" from the e-mail address when replying. > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/coolspot18/ > My '94 Civic with 168 000 km on it still has the original rotors front > and back. Having the rotors out at 58 000 km seems strange. Strange only if you've never seen the horrors of rust. Take a look at these 4-year old rotors: http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/rustybrakes/brakes1.html Do yours look like that? SignatureTeGGeR? The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ "TeGGer®" wrote: > > My '94 Civic with 168 000 km on it still has the original rotors front > > and back. Having the rotors out at 58 000 km seems strange. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Do yours look like that? Nope. I left snow and road salt nearly 20 years ago. I am not going back! TeGGer® wrote: >>My '94 Civic with 168 000 km on it still has the original rotors front >>and back. Having the rotors out at 58 000 km seems strange. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Do yours look like that? hideous. that thing needs to be hosed off every time it comes home from the salt. i used to do that with my old rust buckets when i lived in that kind of climate - always proplnged their lives significantly. >> Strange only if you've never seen the horrors of rust. >> Take a look at these 4-year old rotors: >> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/rustybrakes/brakes1.html i noticed a lot of use of emory cloth... why not use a fine bristled wire brush in a drill? i figure as long as the bristles are fine, it shouldnt do any harm to all that cast iron and steel. dont wanna use it around the rubber seals, however :) >>> Strange only if you've never seen the horrors of rust. >>> Take a look at these 4-year old rotors: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > shouldnt do any harm to all that cast iron and steel. dont wanna use it > around the rubber seals, however :) 50-grit emery cloth is more aggressive than a wire brush, and as you imply, you get better control around the rubber components. The areas you need to sand are small and are difficult to get at completely with a wire brush. Also a wire brush has a tendency to polish the rust instead of actually removing it, so I prefer emery cloth. If I have the rotor off, then I do the mount bracket with a file. SignatureTeGGeR? The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > How many times have you replaced the rear brake pads? Any chance that > they were worn out and that the backer was scraping against the rotor? First time replacing my brake pads - I had the whole set replaced (front and back). Two shops told me my brake pads were low - about 5 - 10% of life left in them. > Did the shop say why they were replacing the rotors? Were they warped > or were they just worn too thin for continued service? The shop told me my rear rotors were thin and could not be machined. However, the front rotors still had enough material to machine. The service tech was a bit surprised himself I needed to replacement them. He said that rotors last between 60,000KM - 120,000KM and I caught the low end. He also said because I leave the car in the garage for a couple days at a time, rust may have built up and caused premature wear. In anycase, he didn't have an idea why they would wear out so quickly... just bad luck he said? Any other ideas? SignatureLucas Tam (REMOVEnntp@rogers.com) Please delete "REMOVE" from the e-mail address when replying. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/coolspot18/ > The service tech was a bit surprised himself I needed to replacement them. > He said that rotors last between 60,000KM - 120,000KM and I caught the low [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Any other ideas? I think the rust explanation seems plausible. I am just particularly paranoid about dealerships and brake jobs. At service, my local dealer told me that the front pads were down to 2 mm and had to be replaced. I told them no, thinking I'd do the job myself for less. After taking out the old pads, I was not able to measure less than 7 mm anywhere. And yes, I know to measure only the lining, not the whole pad. > Hi all, > > I just took my 2001 Accord Coupe EX-V6 in for rear brake pad > replacement. The dealer told me that my rear rotors need to be replaced > as well - I only have ~58,000KM (or about 35K miles). I find it a bit > surprising that I need ot replace my rotors so quickly. It's rust. Lack of driving is what does it. Very common, especially in Northern US states and southern Canada. The absolute worst is when you drive the car in the snow or rain, then park it in a garage. That salt-laden moisture then takes a long time to evaporate and munches away at metal like crazy. Sorry, but what you're experiencing is normal for your climate and driving habits. > I had always thought rotors would last 80,000KM to 120,000KM before they > need to be replaced. If you drive a lot or live in a warm climate, yes they will. SignatureTeGGeR? The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > It's rust. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > moisture then takes a long time to evaporate and munches away at metal > like crazy. I did notice the rust build ups... I used to go away to school during the week and I would leave my car at home. On the weekends I would notice a thin layer of rust - and after driving the rust would be gone. I didn't think much of it at the time, but I did wonder how much material was being stripped away and the effects on the car... I guess I now know. Thanks for the info. SignatureLucas Tam (REMOVEnntp@rogers.com) Please delete "REMOVE" from the e-mail address when replying. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/coolspot18/ >> It's rust. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >think much of it at the time, but I did wonder how much material was being >stripped away and the effects on the car... I guess I now know. Rust doesn't happen when its cold. All chemical action slows down at low temperatures. The rusting occurs as temperatures rise above freezing. Heated garages are murder on cars that have to drive on salt-laden roads. Leave it outside if you can. |
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