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Car Forum / Honda Cars / February 2005

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'78 Honda Civic  -  Stuck wheel drum .....

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Alexis Ostapenko - 22 Feb 2005 22:51 GMT
Hi, All Responders:
   THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR REPLIES!
                  I've learned so much from you.

  Herewith are the results.
    (My original request is at the bottom for reference.)

1) Stuck rear wheel drum.
      After I backed the shoes off to the maximum, the drum
  just slid off the axle.  (The linings were still OK to pass
  the inspection.)  The linings had eaten into the drum, and
  a ridge formed at the outer edge.  There was also quite a
  bit of encrusted rust.  This ridge was preventing the drum
  to come off.  I filed the ridge off, and now everything is
  honky-dory.

2) Mayonaise-like sludge on the oil filler cap.
       Most likely, this is the result of condensation water
  since lately I have been driving mainly 5-6 mile commuter
  trips.  Later, I'll make the "lick test" to verify that
  the sludge does not result from a coolant leakage.
  (Coolant makes it taste sweet. This was suggested by one
   of you.)

Thanks again to all of you.      Alex

==========================================
CC:  My original message:
  Please help!
What to do?  I cannot get off the rear wheel drum
on my trusty '78 Honda Civic (just 100,305 M on it)
to check the brake shoes.  The nut is off, and I've
loosened the brake adjustment, but the drum does
not come off. (It can be rotated.)  I've tried
prying with a screw driver between the drum edge
and the back plate, but no luck.
The other rear wheel drum just slides off.

The other question I have is about the oil filler cap.
Especially when it is cold outside, the oil filler cap
is covered with some Mayonaise-like substance.
What is this emulsion?  Does it do any harm?
  I would appreciate any suggestions.  Especially,
about the drum.
                  Thanks,        Alex
Gordon McGrew - 22 Feb 2005 23:27 GMT
>2) Mayonaise-like sludge on the oil filler cap.
>        Most likely, this is the result of condensation water
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>   (Coolant makes it taste sweet. This was suggested by one
>    of you.)

Feels good to fix it yourself, doesn't it?

I would skip the lick test (yucch.)  If the coolant level isn't
dropping it's OK.  The six mile trips are a problem though.  Having
that much condensation in the crankcase is bad.  You should change the
oil now and then start taking it on a 20+ mile ride at least once a
week.  Even then, you should change the oil every three months
regardless of milage.
TeGGer? - 22 Feb 2005 23:43 GMT
> Even then, you should change the oil every three months
> regardless of milage.

Every TWO months in winter if mayonnaise is forming. Your bearings won't
appreciate the water in the oil.

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TeGGer? - 22 Feb 2005 23:41 GMT
> Hi, All Responders:
>     THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR REPLIES!
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>    to come off.  I filed the ridge off, and now everything is
>    honky-dory.

And I got laughed at for suggesting just this.

>:^P to all the laughers.

> 2) Mayonaise-like sludge on the oil filler cap.
>         Most likely, this is the result of condensation water
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>    (Coolant makes it taste sweet. This was suggested by one
>     of you.)

Take it for a minimum half-hour highway drive FIRST, then see if the
mayonnaise is still there. If it is, THEN taste it. But wipe it off the tip
of your tongue after.

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