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Car Forum / Honda Cars / April 2005

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Suggestion needed - Engine stalling occasionally.

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dgjybc@yahoo.com - 23 Apr 2005 04:17 GMT
99 accord, manual, 5 spd.

When I depressed the clutch, the RPM normally drops to 700 quickly,
which is good. But occasionally it drops to 100 or lower and then rises
to 700 slowly. Sometimes, it's so slow that the engine stalls
(smoothly). After I turn the key to retart it, it runs OK again.

I doubt it's the Idle Air Control (IAC) valve's problem. But I don't
understand why a restart makes the problem gone right away.

Anybody has any idea?

Thanks!
TeGGeR® - 23 Apr 2005 05:08 GMT
> 99 accord, manual, 5 spd.
>
> When I depressed the clutch, the RPM normally drops to 700 quickly,
> which is good. But occasionally it drops to 100 or lower

No, it drops to 500. Everybody thinks that bottom line is 100. It's 500.

> and then rises
> to 700 slowly. Sometimes, it's so slow that the engine stalls
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>
> Anybody has any idea?

Check:
1) Coolant level in the RAD
2) Check the cleanliness of the throttle body

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John - 23 Apr 2005 21:06 GMT
> > 99 accord, manual, 5 spd.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Same thing happens to my 92 civic dx. What does the coolant level and
throttle body cleanliness have to do with this? I've cleaned the whole
intake manifold and throttle body, replaced the PCV valve, cleaned the IACV
and FITV, and it's still doing it even though the idle has stabilized a
little (PCV was really dirty).

It still dies from time to time.

I know when I taking off, clutch half way depressed, in first, sometimes the
"engine died" light shows and it's like the engine dies, but then it
restarts and when I give it gas it continues smoothly. Do you think the
clutch needs replacement and is causing this?
Kevin McMurtrie - 23 Apr 2005 21:26 GMT
> > > 99 accord, manual, 5 spd.
> > >
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> restarts and when I give it gas it continues smoothly. Do you think the
> clutch needs replacement and is causing this?

Bad launches can mean that the O2 sensor has failed or you're running
very rich while the ECU isn't using O2 sensor feedback.
John - 24 Apr 2005 10:09 GMT
> > > > 99 accord, manual, 5 spd.
> > > >
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> Bad launches can mean that the O2 sensor has failed or you're running
> very rich while the ECU isn't using O2 sensor feedback.

Well, it doesn't die completely. It's like the clutch catches on but then
I'm thinking there's not enough power to go on and the dead engine light
shows, so I immediately give it gas, and it returns back to running.

I'm thinking the stalling (as the OP mentioned) and this problem on lunch
are two separate issues--I'm concerned about both.
dgjybc@yahoo.com - 23 Apr 2005 23:09 GMT
The problem happens to me when I slow down, not take off.

The clutch was depressed all the way down to the bottom. So, I think it
shouldn't be a clutch problem.
Kevin McMurtrie - 24 Apr 2005 03:33 GMT
> The problem happens to me when I slow down, not take off.
>
> The clutch was depressed all the way down to the bottom. So, I think it
> shouldn't be a clutch problem.

Oh, then it's probably the mechanical idle setting.  If it's set too
low, the engine can stall when you push in the clutch.  The electronic
idle control takes a moment to open so it won't catch rapidly falling
RPMs.  My 97 Civic needed it adjusted when it started stumbling on
clutch depresses.

The clutch is easy enough to test.  Shift into reverse very slowly and
listen for grinding.
dgjybc@yahoo.com - 24 Apr 2005 07:56 GMT
Kevin,
If it's the idle setting, the prooblem should happen more frequently.
Right?
In my case, it just happens occasionally. I started to have this
problem about 6 months ago. The problem has been getting worse little
by little.

Jim,
My iginition switch was replaced by my dealer.

Thanks.
SoCalMike - 24 Apr 2005 08:50 GMT
> Kevin,
> If it's the idle setting, the prooblem should happen more frequently.
> Right?
> In my case, it just happens occasionally. I started to have this
> problem about 6 months ago. The problem has been getting worse little
> by little.

on my 98 civic, a bad O2 sensor gave me a check engine light, and it
would die at idle. if you have an older civic with the original sensor,
might be worth replacing.
John - 24 Apr 2005 10:09 GMT
> > Kevin,
> > If it's the idle setting, the prooblem should happen more frequently.
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> would die at idle. if you have an older civic with the original sensor,
> might be worth replacing.

The thing is the light goes off, and the engine restarts if I press gas
right away (as soon as I see/feel that the engine is dying).
John - 24 Apr 2005 10:09 GMT
> > The problem happens to me when I slow down, not take off.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> The clutch is easy enough to test.  Shift into reverse very slowly and
> listen for grinding.

You mean the idle adjustment screw?
jim beam - 24 Apr 2005 03:46 GMT
>>99 accord, manual, 5 spd.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> 1) Coolant level in the RAD
> 2) Check the cleanliness of the throttle body

and in this vehicle, the ignition switch - a recall item.
 
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