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Car Forum / Honda Cars / July 2005

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99 Civic starting issue

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John Smith - 06 Jul 2005 17:18 GMT
Hello:

My 1999 Civic LX 4-dr sedan has the following problem: when I try to start
the car, it keeps trying but does not actually start. The battery is about
9months old. The car was in my garage for 4days and yesterday when I tried
to start it, no success.

Any ideas what might be the problem? I am planning on having it towed to a
dealership today. I just wanted to be semi-informed on what might be the
issues (and how much they could cost)?

Thanks.
jim beam - 06 Jul 2005 17:26 GMT
> Hello:
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> Thanks.

when were the plugs last changed?  what's the service history?  mileage?
John Smith - 06 Jul 2005 18:15 GMT
The car has 47k miles on it. I am the first owner. I have had regular
service done at Honda dealerships...the last was a 45k service which was
done about 4months ago. I went through the paperwork -- it does not appear
as though the plugs were cleaned/changed at that time.

>> Hello:
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> when were the plugs last changed?  what's the service history?  mileage?
motsco_ _ - 06 Jul 2005 18:43 GMT
> The car has 47k miles on it. I am the first owner. I have had regular
> service done at Honda dealerships...the last was a 45k service which was
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>>when were the plugs last changed?  what's the service history?  mileage?

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Don't have it towed. Parts don't fail while a car is sitting inside a
garage (unless the garage was struck by lightning) Read the chapter in
your manual called STARTING THE ENGINE. You've got a flooded engine
because one injector stuck open, and dribbled gas into the engine while
it was parked. My Odyssey did the same trick to us.  Just do like the
manual says, and hold the pedal to the floor, crank it, and release the
pedal when it starts to run. It will blow a bit of black smoke.

Your dealer should know about this. the cure is to run some injector
cleaner thru it, or a couple tanks of Gasohol (see your manual)

'Curly'
Frank Boettcher - 06 Jul 2005 19:32 GMT
>> The car has 47k miles on it. I am the first owner. I have had regular
>> service done at Honda dealerships...the last was a 45k service which was
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>Don't have it towed. Parts don't fail while a car is sitting inside a
>garage

That's exactly how my igniter failed on my 90 accord.  drove it
running fine. parked it for several days and when I tried to restart
it igniter was bad.  replaced igniter and all is well.  Had about 50K
miles  on it when it happened.  

(unless the garage was struck by lightning) Read the chapter in
>your manual called STARTING THE ENGINE. You've got a flooded engine
>because one injector stuck open, and dribbled gas into the engine while
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>'Curly'
John Smith - 06 Jul 2005 19:46 GMT
Thanks for your response.

It was exactly what you said...I had to hold the pedal down fully and crank
it a couple of times. I now need to implement the injector cleaner part of
your message. Any suggestions on brand names for that product?

There was another response saying that spark plugs would have been replaced
at 30k. That is correct. I just looked at my 30k service records.

Thanks again.

>> The car has 47k miles on it. I am the first owner. I have had regular
>> service done at Honda dealerships...the last was a 45k service which was
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> 'Curly'
motsco_ _ - 06 Jul 2005 23:00 GMT
> Thanks for your response.
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>>'Curly'

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Techron seems to be the 'de facto' standard. It's an American product,
but I don't remember what gas station sells it. I'm in Canada, so I just
filled the sucker up with Mohawk 'PLUS' gas, two tanks must have cured it.

'Curly'
SoCalMike - 07 Jul 2005 03:37 GMT
> Thanks for your response.
>
> It was exactly what you said...I had to hold the pedal down fully and crank
> it a couple of times. I now need to implement the injector cleaner part of
> your message. Any suggestions on brand names for that product?

chevron... techron, techroline, something like that.

> There was another response saying that spark plugs would have been replaced
> at 30k. That is correct. I just looked at my 30k service records.
>
> Thanks again.

any time! ive got a 98 myself ive done all the work on. same service
intervals :)
jim beam - 06 Jul 2005 18:50 GMT
>>>Hello:
>>>
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> done about 4months ago. I went through the paperwork -- it does not appear
> as though the plugs were cleaned/changed at that time.

standard plugs are rated for 30k - if they were not changed, they are a
prime candidate.  if you can change them yourself, you're going to
change yourself a bunch of cash on having the dealer tow & do the same
thing for you.

you could probably translate your savings into one of these:

http://www.midwayautosupply.com/detailedproductdescription.asp?3352

which will save you a bunch of trouble in the future for this or any
other post 96 car you own.  first thing any repair shop does is plug one
of these in & get the codes.
SoCalMike - 06 Jul 2005 19:02 GMT
> The car has 47k miles on it. I am the first owner. I have had regular
> service done at Honda dealerships...the last was a 45k service which was
> done about 4months ago. I went through the paperwork -- it does not appear
> as though the plugs were cleaned/changed at that time.

it was likely done at the 30k service.
SoCalMike - 06 Jul 2005 19:01 GMT
> Hello:
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> dealership today. I just wanted to be semi-informed on what might be the
> issues (and how much they could cost)?

leaky injector could have flooded it? did ya try flooring the pedal
while cranking to let more air in?

> Thanks.
 
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