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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 20052006 accord? difference between EX and LX?
Hi, I am in the market for a new/used(2004-2005) Honda Accord and was wondering what is the difference between the EX and the LX models? Also, when would the 2006 Accord be coming out? If anyone has been closeley following the cars previews is it something to wait for or better to get the '05 instead? What are the good/bad things in the new accord? Lastly I am sure that there would be a unanimous agreement in that the Accord is wayyy better then the camry (in this group at least), but am wondering if someone could offer and unbiased opinion as to why is it better and what (if any) are the drawbacks? Thank you for your help. You will still be in the current generation. Expect only minor changes. I have never seen a good reason to upgrade within a generation. The 2006 should be out next month +/-. In my opinion, now is the time to buy a 2005, not wait for a 2006. There are significant differences between the LX and EX versions, but it's all bells and whistles. The basic car is the same. Go to Edmunds http://www.edmunds.com/ for a complete explanation of the differences. You can also go to the Honda website http://automobiles.honda.com/ , but I like the way Edmunds explains it. I don't think you will find unanimous agreement that the Accord is much better than the Camry. Depends on what you are looking for. Both are very reliable cars, and both hold their value well. The Honda has a more sporting suspension, and many like its looks better. The Camry is often described as being more like a Buick in the way it rides and performs. Either car is an excellent choice. Dick 2003 EX V-6 >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Thank you for your help. > Lastly I am sure that there would be a unanimous agreement in that the > Accord is wayyy better then the camry (in this group at least), but am > wondering if someone could offer and unbiased opinion as to why is it > better and what (if any) are the drawbacks? I wouldn't say waaaaay better. Different, that's all. If you have to put it into words, the Honda is typically more of a driver's car and the Toyota more of a rider's car (some call it the Japanese Buick). Frankly, it may come down to which dealership is closer to you, or is better for service. Virtually no differences with the 2006 model compared to 2005. The 2007's will have a revised rear end. The 2008's will be all new. > Hi, > > I am in the market for a new/used(2004-2005) Honda Accord and was > wondering what is the difference between the EX and the LX models? I think the EX has 4-wheel disc brakes, while the LX has front discs and rear drums. The EX also adds a moonroof and some other fancy stuff. > Also, when would the 2006 Accord be coming out? If anyone has been > closeley following the cars previews is it something to wait for or > better to get the '05 instead? What are the good/bad things in the new > accord? I don't know what changes Honda has planned for the '06 Accord. It was all new for 2003, so if Honda maintains its usual 5-year cycle, the next generation of Accord would arrive for 2008. I would imagine the '06 will come out in the fall, as usual. > Lastly I am sure that there would be a unanimous agreement in that the > Accord is wayyy better then the camry (in this group at least), but am > wondering if someone could offer and unbiased opinion as to why is it > better and what (if any) are the drawbacks? As I said to another poster recently, Camry has a slightly smoother ride but Accord has slightly tighter handling. So if ride quality is a higher priority then handling, then perhaps one should look at a Camry first. And personally, I think the Camry looks better than the Accord sedan. But the Accord coupe looks a bit better than the Camry-based Solara coupe. > Thank you for your help. No problem. models? >I think the EX has 4-wheel disc brakes, while the LX has front discs and >rear drums. The EX also adds a moonroof and some other fancy stuff. I'm pretty sure both have 4 wheel discs. The EX has alloy wheels, the moonroof, and climate control. You should check out edmunds.com They have a bottomless pit of information. Really good site, but you have to poke around a bit. Cheers, --N >>I think the EX has 4-wheel disc brakes, while the LX has front discs and >>rear drums. The EX also adds a moonroof and some other fancy stuff. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Cheers, --N I just looked on Edmunds, and we were both half right. The LX 4-cylinder has front discs and rear drums, but the LX V6 has discs on all 4 wheels. If the new Hondas are due to come out in Fall does that mean that the '05s would be on sale at that time? In which case is it advisable to buy it right now or wait till the new models come out? - What percent discount from the blue book invoice value would be a "good price" to buy it for? For example if I am getting a car 5% less then the listed invoice price on the blue book is that a good deal? You need to keep lookin' at the Edmunds web-site. Sometimes, dealers will be given an incentive of $500 to $1000 to get rid-off older models etc., You need to know this, before you go. Also, watch the newspapers. Sometimes they advertise the sale price -- sometimes, absolute minimum. Invoice price is one thing, but you need to look at dealer's incentive, too. >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Thank you for your help. You can check the following URL for the 2006 brochure and all of the features the 06 will have including LED lights, a revised rear for the sedan, and a slight boost in HP. http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-message?message_id=389734 Nick Hi, A couple of questions: - So I like the 2006 Accord.. the question being again, when the new cars come out would their MSRP be the same as the '05 Accords right now? and would the '05 Accords go down in price? or would the '05 Accords be about the same price as now and the '06 Accord be at a higher price? - I found a 2004 Accord that I like with the lucrative reason being that whoever bought the car had bought a 10 year bumper-to-bumpuer warranty with it. Its a 2004 Accord EXL. When I am factoring in the pric I want to know approximately how much would the 10 year warranty cost? Also, when I purchase a used car how do I pay tax on it? (I am in New York City). Thanks again for all your help.. much appreciated. > - So I like the 2006 Accord.. the question being again, when the new > cars come out would their MSRP be the same as the '05 Accords right > now? and would the '05 Accords go down in price? or would the '05 > Accords be about the same price as now and the '06 Accord be at a > higher price? The '06 should be "about" the same MSRP the '05 was. Maybe a small difference. How much they mark down an '05 may be a moot point by then. How many do you think they will have left? It's not like with GM where they have tons of previous model year vehicles sitting around. > - I found a 2004 Accord that I like with the lucrative reason being > that whoever bought the car had bought a 10 year bumper-to-bumpuer > warranty with it. Its a 2004 Accord EXL. When I am factoring in the > pric I want to know approximately how much would the 10 year warranty > cost? Also, when I purchase a used car how do I pay tax on it? (I am > in New York City). Tax is paid when you go to register/transfer title at the NYC DMV based on A) tax rate for where you are registering the car and B) price stated on the bill of sale you present. Anyone have any idea how much a 10 year bumper-to-bumper warranty costs on a Honda Accord? THanks, > Anyone have any idea how much a 10 year bumper-to-bumper warranty costs > on a Honda Accord? > > THanks, from $800 on up, depending on how bad the dealer screwed the original owner. my g/f was offered a 7 yr extended warranty (first 3 covered by OEM warranty, anyway) for "only $30/mo" do the math on a 5 yr note... $30x 60= $1800. i said hell no, and they immediately dropped it to $600. she ended up taking it. i wouldnt have, but hey- its her car. and i saved her $1200 right off the bat. >> Anyone have any idea how much a 10 year bumper-to-bumper warranty costs >> on a Honda Accord? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >immediately dropped it to $600. she ended up taking it. i wouldnt have, >but hey- its her car. and i saved her $1200 right off the bat. Anyone who pays attention knows that extended warranties are cash-cows for the companies. Ever notice how often you get asked now on the most trivial of purchases? Even things that only cost $30 or so? It is well known that extended warranties often make more profit for the companies than profit on the product itself. In the long term, it is not a cost-effective purchase. Think in terms of buying a car. Let's say you negotiate a deal down to $500 profit for the dealer. Then he tacks on a $1,000 extended warranty. Which do you think will earn the dealer more money? I would NEVER buy an extended warranty on a new vehicle. Dick > Think in terms of buying a car. Let's say you negotiate a deal down > to $500 profit for the dealer. Then he tacks on a $1,000 extended > warranty. Which do you think will earn the dealer more money? I > would NEVER buy an extended warranty on a new vehicle. i wouldnt either, especially on a honda or toyota. doubly especially on a configuration that has an excellent track record. i bet the people that got extended warranties on honda v6/automatic are happy >> Think in terms of buying a car. Let's say you negotiate a deal down >> to $500 profit for the dealer. Then he tacks on a $1,000 extended [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >a configuration that has an excellent track record. i bet the people >that got extended warranties on honda v6/automatic are happy Well, I had a '99 EX V-6 and now a '03 EX V-6 and have not had one minute of trouble with either one. Put a total of about 90,000 miles on them. I know some people have had problems, but luckily not me. In fact, the only problem I had with either of them was a leaky roof railing trim strip in the '03. Just made it under the warranty period. Dick Hi, Thanks for your replies.. I was still a little confused by your replies. You guys vehemently oppose extended warranties, but is it really a bad idea to have everything in your car covered for a $1000 more bucks? I mean, if anything goes wrong with your car you end up spending at a few hundred on it. And in Mike's case, a 7 year warranty for $600 bucks? I understand that the dealer makes money on it, but what do YOU really lose? A peace of mind for the next 10 years, and if nothing goes wrong, you still only paid 600 bucks, rite? And in simple terms would I be better off buying a new accord '05 rite now, or wait till next month when the '06's come out for a better deal? thank you very much! ANd as dick said he just made it under the warranty period in '03. If he hadn't what would your cost to fix that glitch have been? I appreciate your replies and am not trying to discount them by any means. I just dont know too much about cars (its the first car I am buying) and am thinking from different perspectives as to what would be the best thing to do. and mike what do u mean when you say > i bet the people > that got extended warranties on honda v6/automatic are happy so are you saying that its good to get an extended warranty on an automatic V6 or are you saying that the automatic V6's are crap? Maybe I am a little too drunk from friday nite, but I believe that you were talking about how warrnty SHOULDN'T be purchased, so why the switch? I am very close to buying a car and > and mike what do u mean when you say > > i bet the people > > that got extended warranties on honda v6/automatic are happy > so are you saying that its good to get an extended warranty on an > automatic V6 or are you saying that the automatic V6's are crap? Until mid-2004 model year, Honda's auto trans that they put on their V6 engines were crap. Plain and simple. On 8/20/05 8:46 AM, in article 1124545616.476039.235490@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, "dufffman@gmail.com" > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > what do YOU really lose? A peace of mind for the next 10 years, and if > nothing goes wrong, you still only paid 600 bucks, rite? The only thing I have ever spent any where near $600 to repair on Hondas has been the timing belt and the extended warranties don't cover that. > And in simple terms would I be better off buying a new accord '05 rite > now, or wait till next month when the '06's come out for a better deal? The '05 will be immediately a one year old car. The line of reasoning here should be about how long you plan to keep it. If you are thinking two or three years, you will lose an extra year's worth of depreciation when you go to trade it. If you plan to keep it forever (forever is about 5 years), that doesn't come into play and you should go with the best price you can get. > thank you very much! > ANd as dick said he just made it under the warranty period in '03. If [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I am a little too drunk from friday nite, but I believe that you were > talking about how warrnty SHOULDN'T be purchased, so why the switch? I find this comment confusing as well. Honda extended the warranty on the transmissions that have problem potential to 7 years/100,000 miles, so an aftermarket extended warranty would be pointless for this purpose. > I am very close to buying a car and > The only thing I have ever spent any where near $600 to repair on Hondas has > been the timing belt and the extended warranties don't cover that. At 35K miles and 44 months old (out of warranty), my 02 Odyssey developed a bad airflow sensor. That's a $300 repair. Thanks to my relationship with the dealer, though, I didn't have to pay any of it. But my relationship with my dealer is something I've cultivated over 25 years, and it's relatively easy for me to have them cover it under the terms Honda allows them. (Honda pays for these types of things; it's a discretionary account the dealer has with Honda.) But many people are not in my position, and would prefer to have a formal arrangement with Honda regarding this kind of thing. Given how the Honda beancounters have taken over and Honda is now building things more cheaply, and more things are going wrong, maybe it's not a bad idea. But then again, Honda is supposed to have a reputation as the car to buy when you don't want to worry about things....guess the Honda accountants are doing everything they can to destroy that reputation. It took Honda 30 years to build that reputation, and it's taking far less time for their new accountant-oriented management to destroy it. Might as well buy a Hyundai. > But then again, Honda is supposed to have a reputation as the car to buy and toyota, as well. > when you don't want to worry about things....guess the Honda accountants > are doing everything they can to destroy that reputation. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Might as well buy a Hyundai. or a toyota. > > Might as well buy a Hyundai. > > > or a toyota. yeah, but a Hyundai is cheaper--and has most, if not all, of the quality that Honda *used* to have. Me, I'd buy a used Lexus... >>>Might as well buy a Hyundai. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Me, I'd buy a used Lexus... a friend at work bought a 91 LS400 for $9000 several years ago. had 200k on it at the time. now its got 300k and he hasnt had to do anything to it aside from regular maintenance > I find this comment confusing as well. Honda extended the warranty on the > transmissions that have problem potential to 7 years/100,000 miles, so an > aftermarket extended warranty would be pointless for this purpose. supposedly. on some cars. and there are always dealers that love to play "dumb" about stuff like that. "never heard about that" "nope- your VIN doesnt qualify" "your fluid is burnt- thats abuse!" >Hi, >And in simple terms would I be better off buying a new accord '05 rite >now, or wait till next month when the '06's come out for a better deal? If you really intend to keep your car for 10 years, there is no question that buying the '05 is a better deal for you. Take advantage of the model year closeouts. Both of our last Accords were purchased just before the next year came out, and we got terrific deals on them. In 10 years, the difference in resale value between the '05 and '06 might buy you six-pack. Don't even put end-of-use value into your thinking because it doesn't matter. Dick >>Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > question that buying the '05 is a better deal for you. Take advantage > of the model year closeouts. for a model not due for a change, sure. in some cases, like the civic, i like the previous gen better than the current one. >>>Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >for a model not due for a change, sure. in some cases, like the civic, i >like the previous gen better than the current one. My comments were directed toward someone staying within the 7th generation of Accords. When crossing generations, other things come into consideration. Dick Thanks Elmo P. Shagnasty for your reply. I am exactly in that position which is why I am contemplating the warranty and was wondering how much would it cost? I am looking at either brand new accords or used models from 2004 or 2003 with under 20K miles on them. Was there a problem with the V4's also or only the V6's till mid 2004? I understand that it doesn't matter if I buy the '05 or the '06. My question is, is it the best time RIGHT NOW to get the best deals or wait till sometime in September to get the best deals? Sorry for the repeated questions, but I am really an amateur in this field and could use all the help I could get! Thanks >Thanks Elmo P. Shagnasty for your reply. I am exactly in that position >which is why I am contemplating the warranty and was wondering how much [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Thanks Depends upon the dealer's inventory and what you want in the car. The longer you wait, the less choices you will have in color, etc. I think right now is the optimum time. Dick > I am looking at either brand new accords or used models from 2004 or > 2003 with under 20K miles on them. Was there a problem with the V4's > also or only the V6's till mid 2004? The problem was the auto trans that they hooked to the V6 engines. The 4 cylinder engine auto trans was fine. > Thanks Elmo P. Shagnasty for your reply. I am exactly in that position > which is why I am contemplating the warranty and was wondering how much [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 2003 with under 20K miles on them. Was there a problem with the V4's > also or only the V6's till mid 2004? just the V6 with the automatic. and only some of em. > I understand that it doesn't matter if I buy the '05 or the '06. My > question is, is it the best time RIGHT NOW to get the best deals or > wait till sometime in September to get the best deals? for used i dont think its gonna matter. > Sorry for the repeated questions, but I am really an amateur in this > field and could use all the help I could get! > > Thanks > Thanks Elmo P. Shagnasty for your reply. I am exactly in that position > which is why I am contemplating the warranty and was wondering how much [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Thanks I was in a similar situation you're in right now. The longer you wait, the less choice you have in color, etc. Hondas normally do not have many or any factory options to choose from - only dealer options. I hear the '06 Accords will have some differences in body panels, etc - mainly cosmetic. Have purchased used cars in the past and on the urging of others decided to bite the bullet and buy new this time. You don't have to wonder/worry about the previous maintenance or history on the vehicle - piece of mind. I just picked up an '05 Accord LX 5-speed (had to have SOME fun driving!) The finance mgr was trying to push many different warranties and oil change options. I didn't take any of them. Salesman was excellent. Also found out through a relative to call Geico - they automatically extend the warranty to 100k miles/10 years on a new car. Not sure on the 10 year part - might be 7 or something. I decided not to do the Geico thing - read too many negative things about them, and am perfectly happy w/current auto insurance. I plan on keeping this car for a while and hopefully the Honda beancounters didn't hurt this car! I think most problems will rear it's head within the warranty period. Differences between the LX and EX models - the EX adds the 6-disc in dash changer, 16" alloy wheels, sunroof and 4-wheel disc brakes. Those are the major differences. I would have loved those options but had to keep costs down - hence the LX. If you can, check the websites of your local Honda dealerships to see what they currently have in stock. Go to different ones and see what the best price you can negotiate with each one, and don't forget about the service you're receiving. I'm more inclined to give my business to the non-pushy salesman who might be a fifty bucks more than the greaseball salesman that I don't trust/like. I was also shopping for about a month before I purchased, so I had an advantage - I wasn't desperate. Good luck! -Dave > Differences between the LX and EX models - the EX adds the 6-disc in dash > changer, 16" alloy wheels, sunroof and 4-wheel disc brakes. And you can add the CD changer and the wheels to your LX, should you choose. >>Differences between the LX and EX models - the EX adds the 6-disc in dash >>changer, 16" alloy wheels, sunroof and 4-wheel disc brakes. > > And you can add the CD changer and the wheels to your LX, should you > choose. i wonder if hed get "credit" for the unused wheels/tires and stereo. or is the disc part an add-on? >> Differences between the LX and EX models - the EX adds the 6-disc in dash >> changer, 16" alloy wheels, sunroof and 4-wheel disc brakes. > > And you can add the CD changer and the wheels to your LX, should you > choose. Very true, but other priorities come first. If I didn't get them now I doubt I'll add them later - unless an offer I can't refuse came along. Precisely Dave. I totally agree with you. Just want to say THANK YOU VERY MUCh too all of you who have so generously willed to help me out with my car buying dilema! Now since I am in the last part of my transactions, I put forth one more question to you. I am getting a 2004 Accord EX (with navigation and leather trim, dual power seats, 6 CD changer and all the other standard features). The car currently has 17000 miles on it and I went to see it today is in very good condition; immaculate really. It has the standard three year honda warranty on it. The guy is willing to part with it for 18500 What do you guys think of the deal? I also went to a couple of dealerships today and they quoted me in the range of 23800 - 24600 for a new '05 with the above-mentioned options but figured I am saving close to 7000 buy getting it used. Also lastly, what is the "premium sound" option that kbb.com offers while checking car prices? And any idea if it came standard with a 2004 Accord EXL V4? Thank you very much! I would say grab it. You could get that much on a trade-in. >Precisely Dave. I totally agree with you. Just want to say THANK YOU >VERY MUCh too all of you who have so generously willed to help me out [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Thank you very much! > Precisely Dave. I totally agree with you. Just want to say THANK YOU > VERY MUCh too all of you who have so generously willed to help me out [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Thank you very much! I know the EX is normally about 2k more than the LX, unless you start going with the V6 option. I picked up an '05 LX 5-speed for a touch under 17k (including destination charge but before tax and tags). They had a few of these on the lot and probably needed to unload them quick with the '06 coming in soon. I normally get a car at least a few years old - however I'm happy with my decision. Good luck - the Accord is a great car! -Dave > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > I am very close to buying a car and the extended warranties are practically worthless. read the fine print. they do not cover anything that wears out, they do not cover labor [typically], they just "cover" major items that never fail like crankshafts, and even then, it's latent defects, not wear. these policies are written by people that can do the math. if probability of failure x the cost of repair exceeds the price of the policy, including all the overhead, commissions, etc., you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that the policy would never be written. therefore statistically, you will never benefit from it. again, read the fine print with this in mind & you'll see what i mean. > the extended warranties are practically worthless. read the fine print. > they do not cover anything that wears out, they do not cover labor > [typically], they just "cover" major items that never fail like > crankshafts, and even then, it's latent defects, not wear. You're not speaking from a position of having read the HondaCare contract, are you. No, you're not. >>the extended warranties are practically worthless. read the fine print. >> they do not cover anything that wears out, they do not cover labor [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > No, you're not. you're right, i haven't. but i've read ford, and it's practically worthless. admittedly, ford is not honda. yet. the fact still remains however that you would not be able to buy an extended warranty if there was any statistical liklihood of you benefitting from it! > > You're not speaking from a position of having read the HondaCare > > contract, are you. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > you're right, i haven't. but i've read ford, and it's practically > worthless. admittedly, ford is not honda. yet. rather, honda is not ford--yet. Slippery slope, Honda, slippery slope.... > Hi, > > Thanks for your replies.. I was still a little confused by your > replies. You guys vehemently oppose extended warranties, but is it > really a bad idea to have everything in your car covered for a $1000 > more bucks? It's not bad, per se, but it's a losing proposition for buyers financially. Ultimately it's your car & your $$$, so do whatever lets you sleep better. >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > financially. Ultimately it's your car & your $$$, so do whatever lets > you sleep better. and if you are going to go that route, best to pay for it seperately. say for the sake of argument you can only get a loan with 10% interest. that $1000 warranty becomes a $1500 warranty over 5 years. and the first 3 years are covered anyway. > - I found a 2004 Accord that I like with the lucrative reason being > that whoever bought the car had bought a 10 year bumper-to-bumpuer > warranty with it. Its a 2004 Accord EXL. When I am factoring in the > pric I want to know approximately how much would the 10 year warranty > cost? is it the hondacare warranty? or some shitty fly-by-night aftermarket "warranty". how many miles on the car? how many miles is the warranty good for? 100k? how much do you drive? |
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