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Car Forum / Honda Cars / August 2005

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Latest mileage woes on the Civic Hybrid

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muzz - 27 Aug 2005 19:11 GMT
Have had the Civic Hybrid for 19 months.  Normal city driving was
showing 32 mpg. Dealer inspected, could find nothing wrong, and
apparently seemed to think I ought to be satisfied, even tho they
advertise 48 mpg in town.

Received a recall on the car, and after talking to the dealer, it
apparently was a software fix for the computer - ahh I thought, maybe
that will help the pathetic gas mileage. Well, it's been a couple of
weeks now since the update and I am presently seeing 29 mpg.
AZ Nomad - 27 Aug 2005 20:04 GMT
>Have had the Civic Hybrid for 19 months.  Normal city driving was
>showing 32 mpg. Dealer inspected, could find nothing wrong, and
>apparently seemed to think I ought to be satisfied, even tho they
>advertise 48 mpg in town.

>Received a recall on the car, and after talking to the dealer, it
>apparently was a software fix for the computer - ahh I thought, maybe
>that will help the pathetic gas mileage. Well, it's been a couple of
>weeks now since the update and I am presently seeing 29 mpg.

How do you define "normal city driving".  What is your top speed?  How long to
you cruise at speeds over 35mph?  If you're never getting above 35 and stop and
go with every light, then 29mpg would be phenominally good gas mileage.
Enrico Fermi - 27 Aug 2005 20:58 GMT
>>Have had the Civic Hybrid for 19 months.  Normal city driving was
>>showing 32 mpg. Dealer inspected, could find nothing wrong, and
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> stop and
> go with every light, then 29mpg would be phenominally good gas mileage.

Wife's box-stock '98 Civic DX makes 32mpg around town. Does better on the
Interstate.
AZ Nomad - 28 Aug 2005 03:29 GMT
>>>Have had the Civic Hybrid for 19 months.  Normal city driving was
>>>showing 32 mpg. Dealer inspected, could find nothing wrong, and
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> stop and
>> go with every light, then 29mpg would be phenominally good gas mileage.

>Wife's box-stock '98 Civic DX makes 32mpg around town. Does better on the
>Interstate.

Does your wife drive the same as the original poster?  If not, then your
observations are irrelevent.
jim beam - 28 Aug 2005 04:12 GMT
>>>>Have had the Civic Hybrid for 19 months.  Normal city driving was
>>>>showing 32 mpg. Dealer inspected, could find nothing wrong, and
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Does your wife drive the same as the original poster?  If not, then your
> observations are irrelevent.

how would we know?  the op didn't state their driving conditions either,
so they're both as "irrelevent" as each other.  [/if/ it's possible to
call the late great enrico fermi irrelevent of course.]
dold@XReXXLates.usenet.us.com - 28 Aug 2005 00:29 GMT
> Received a recall on the car, and after talking to the dealer, it
> apparently was a software fix for the computer - ahh I thought, maybe
> that will help the pathetic gas mileage. Well, it's been a couple of
> weeks now since the update and I am presently seeing 29 mpg.

Some folks claim that the update made the indicated mileage closer to the
true mileage.  I didn't see any difference.  I get about 39 in heavy city
driving with a 2003 Civic Hybrid CVT.

Is your city travel heavy stop and creep, so that the engine never does
idle-stop?  What do you get on the highway?  How long are you in heavy
traffic?  A few bursts to 50mph tossed in, with heavy acceleration?

I did just get 29.7mpg, but that was from Calistoga to the top of Mt. St.
Helena, a rise of 2200 feet in 15 miles, with four people in the car, and
A/C on.  Average speed about 40mph, due to curves.

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L_L - 28 Aug 2005 06:08 GMT
Interesting to hear all this about hybrids.

I've averaged  35 mpusg (42 mi/imp gal) over the past 5 fill ups for
city driving ....1983 Civic FE
Rattus The RAT - 28 Aug 2005 07:58 GMT
how many miles on that thing?

> Interesting to hear all this about hybrids.
>
> I've averaged  35 mpusg (42 mi/imp gal) over the past 5 fill ups for
> city driving ....1983 Civic FE
L_L - 29 Aug 2005 17:16 GMT
Actually, the car belongs to a friend. Odometer reads just under
200,000 km.

Recent highway trip of 300 km delivered
57 mi/imp gal or 47.5 mi/us gal or 5.0 litres/ 100 km.

Transport Canda's rating on this car is
72 mi/imp gal or 60 mi/us gal or 3.9 litres/100 km
slim - 30 Aug 2005 20:20 GMT
> Actually, the car belongs to a friend. Odometer reads just under
> 200,000 km.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Transport Canda's rating on this car is
> 72 mi/imp gal or 60 mi/us gal or 3.9 litres/100 km

"Official" MPG rating have very little in comparision
to real world MPG results.

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Pars - 28 Aug 2005 14:00 GMT
Same here, I get about 35 mpusg of easy driving, in the city (with very
little traffic jams and occasional short sprints on inner city highway).
However, If I'm hard on the accelerator my city mpg will go down to 30 mpg
(US).

My absolute best mileage was 44 mpg on the 1 lane hwy (Toronto to Walkerton
and back) while averaging about 55 mph.

In a recent comparison test, an 05 Civic Coupe was able to obtain 49.6 mpg
If a regular gas engine can achieve these lofty figures on their own, the
added benefit from a Hybrid's electric motor seems insignificant in
comparison.

Pars
98 Civic Hatch (250,000km),
5spd with no Air.

> Interesting to hear all this about hybrids.
>
> I've averaged  35 mpusg (42 mi/imp gal) over the past 5 fill ups for
> city driving ....1983 Civic FE
TomP - 28 Aug 2005 15:49 GMT
> Interesting to hear all this about hybrids.
>
> I've averaged  35 mpusg (42 mi/imp gal) over the past 5 fill ups for
> city driving ....1983 Civic FE

   There you go...  83 Civic F.E. small low power engine in a light
car; what a concept.

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chip - 30 Aug 2005 03:56 GMT
>Have had the Civic Hybrid for 19 months.  Normal city driving was
>showing 32 mpg. Dealer inspected, could find nothing wrong, and
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>that will help the pathetic gas mileage. Well, it's been a couple of
>weeks now since the update and I am presently seeing 29 mpg.

\
 you do know that is EPA estimated mileage ratings and that car never
saw the road to come up with them right????

     People believe everything they read,          
                                  Chip

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