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Car Forum / Honda Cars / September 20051990 Civic left rear wheel bearing?
I got a call this afternoon from a friend who says he has a "rumbling" noise from the left rear tire area. My first guess was wheel bearing. He says when he turns right the noise goes away. And that it wasn't noticable except on WET roads. Could this be tire cupping? I plan on going over Saturday afternoon and swaping left front with left rear and see, or hear what happens. This frined took early medical retirement and is fighting the SS office so he is pretty tight moeny wise. Before I even think about changing the wheel bearing what am I thinking about getting into? I am afriad of the no good deed goes unpunished sequence. Looking at the manual I see that I will have: unstake the nut remove the nut remove the hub Am I understanding that the bearing is permantly attached to the hub? replace the hub replace the nut with a NEW on restake nut Is that it or does the brake assembly have to be removed? Terry > I got a call this afternoon from a friend who says he has a > "rumbling" noise from the left rear tire area. My first guess [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Terry so, your friend tells you what they think it is, then you tell us what you think your friend thinks it is? that's not a recipe for successful diagnostics. go check the car out personally, then report back. > I got a call this afternoon from a friend who says he has a > "rumbling" noise from the left rear tire area. My first guess > was wheel bearing. He says when he turns right the noise goes > away. And that it wasn't noticable except on WET roads. > > Could this be tire cupping? If it's only noticeable on wet roads, it's unlikely to be the wheel bearing. A wheel bearing would be independent of road moisture. Tires make some really weird noises when they wear oddly. > I plan on going over Saturday afternoon and swaping left front > with left rear and see, or hear what happens. Excellent idea. > This frined took early medical retirement and is fighting > the SS office so he is pretty tight moeny wise. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Am I understanding that the bearing is permantly attached > to the hub? The bearing is pressed into the hub, just like the front. You need a big-a.s press to squeeze the thing out of there. You can remove the trailing arm then take that to a machine shop to get the hub bearing replaced. That's easy enough except for the rust. I don't think it's the bearing though. The rear wheel bearings are well protected from the elements and rarely go bad, unlike the fronts... > replace the hub > replace the nut with a NEW on > restake nut > > Is that it or does the brake assembly have to be removed? Removing the brake is the least of your worries. That's easy.  SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ snip Removing the brake is the least of your worries. That's easy. TeGGeR® ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You are starting to scare me. Terry > snip > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Terry Halloween is *next* month. BOO! SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ TeGGeR: Is the nut going to be THAT hard to remove? Is this like the never damned enough timing belt nut? That was a real PITA! Terry > TeGGeR: > Is the nut going to be THAT hard to remove? > Is this like the never damned enough timing belt nut? > That was a real PITA! Actually, it won't be. I just checked my manual and have discovered that you do NOT /necessarily/ need a press (sorry about that) to remove the old bearing. The staked nut is torqued to 134 ft-lbs, so would be easily shifted by a 250ft-lb DeWalt electric impact gun as cheaply rented by most industrial supply houses. DON'T remove the nut at the BACK of the trailing arm! The hub bearing itself is pressed into the hub. I do not now know the price difference between the bearing alone and the hub/bearing assembly. This extract is specifically for the '92-'95 Civic with disc brakes, but ought to be applicable to your '90 with drums or discs. http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/92-95_Civic_rear-hub_bearing.pdf SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >>TeGGeR: >>Is the nut going to be THAT hard to remove? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > 250ft-lb DeWalt electric impact gun as cheaply rented by most industrial > supply houses. easily shifted by a 1/2" breaker bar too! > DON'T remove the nut at the BACK of the trailing arm! > > The hub bearing itself is pressed into the hub. I do not now know the price > difference between the bearing alone and the hub/bearing assembly. honda won't sell you the bearing alone, just the assembly, which is interesting given that they'll happily sell other bearings on their own. i think this means there's no convenient way to extract the races from the hub once pressed in. > This extract is specifically for the '92-'95 Civic with disc brakes, but > ought to be applicable to your '90 with drums or discs. > http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/92-95_Civic_rear-hub_bearing.pdf easily shifted by a 1/2" breaker bar too! honda won't sell you the bearing alone, just the assembly, which is interesting given that they'll happily sell other bearings on their own. i think this means there's no convenient way to extract the races from the hub once pressed in. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks for the information. I want to know what would be involved IF I decide to be helpfull/foolish and agree to help him change the bearing/hub. Terry Thanks for the link. I am trying to get my ducks in a row before I do anything other then swap tires. Terry I left one step out. The brake drum has to be reoved first. This isn't going to be fun. Terry Is the staked nut the one on the outside of the hub? I have disc brakes in my 94 civic. 134ft lbs when I reassemble? I had to grind off the old bearing race on the axle stub. >> TeGGeR: >> Is the nut going to be THAT hard to remove? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > ought to be applicable to your '90 with drums or discs. > http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/92-95_Civic_rear-hub_bearing.pdf > Is the staked nut the one on the outside of the hub? Yes. The one on the back face of the trailing arm holds the spindle to the trailing arm. > I have disc brakes in my 94 civic. Same procedure. > 134ft lbs when I reassemble? Yes. Then stake. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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