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Fijoy George - 17 Sep 2005 23:14 GMT
Hi all,

I recently bought a 1991 Honda Accord. Last week, I took it to this
self-service car wash station where I had an option to wash the engine of
the car. But, I did not try the engine wash thinking it might cause some
damage.

Is washing the engine good for the car? Is it okey if someone like me, who
does not know much about cars do the engine wash? If yes, how do I do it?
Just lift the hood and spray the water on everything underneath?

Thanks
Fijoy
jim beam - 17 Sep 2005 23:35 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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> Thanks
> Fijoy

the up side of cleaning the engine is that

* it looks pretty and,
* can be easier to work on in the event you have major overhaul work to do.

the down side of using a high pressure jet is:
* that it can force water into the hydraulic systems - very very bad.
* it removes any oily "protection" layer that can prevent corrosion
[otherwise known as a minor oil leak]
* it can force water into the ignition system
* it can force water & grit into oil seals,
* it can force water into the clutch mechanism,
* it can clean /wanted/ lubes out of mechanisms that are supposed to
have it like the throttle body & control cables, etc.

some consider it the mark of a "good" mechanic to keep the engine bay
clean.  [my bay is clean too, but not because i pressure wash it.]
personally, i like to see the bay of any used car i buy dirty because it
shows it's not been messed with and i /know/ the hydraulics are much
less likely to be problematic.

if you still want to clean it, use a detergent like gunk, apply with a
brush, and hose it off with a low pressure stream of water only.  if
there's still dirt, re-apply the gunk & repeat.

keep water away from the hydraulic reservoirs.
Jason - 18 Sep 2005 17:58 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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> Thanks
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Fijoy,
I don't advise you to do it since water can easily get into areas that
could cause you to pay a lot of money to repair the damage. For example,
water can cause electrical parts to "short out".
The best way to clean your engine is to use a rag and some cleaning
solution. Clean just the top area of the engine and don't allow any of the
cleaning solution to come into contact with any electrical parts.

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jmattis@attglobal.net - 18 Sep 2005 19:00 GMT
Don't do it.  Pretty doesn't mean reliable.  This applies to a lot more
than cars.

Had an '84 GM that I washed 3 times with high pressure.  Looked nice.
Lost various sensors every time.  $100+ a pop, way back then.  I think
the newer cars will suffer less damage in general, but you are taking a
chance.

If you decide to do it, use a non-corrosive cleaner like Simple Green.
Wet the engine bay down with a hand held hose.  Spray the Simple Green
out of the bottle on the surfaces, more on the greasy parts.  Get out
an old toothbrush and maybe a bigger brush and scrub as needed.  The
parts that aren't too dirty will come out a lot cleaner even without
scrubbing.  Spray everything down with the water hose. Repeat the
application if needed.  No high pressure.  Do this with a cold engine
only.  Never wash a diesel engine by the way, they're too finicky.

All while you're doing this, avoid the alternator and exposed relays
and fuse boxes as best you can.  You may be able to wrap some of this
in plastic.

Then use a gallon of distilled water and rinse everything down to avoid
water spots.  Start up the car and drive it a good long while to dry
everything out.
Jason - 18 Sep 2005 23:59 GMT
> Don't do it.  Pretty doesn't mean reliable.  This applies to a lot more
> than cars.
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> water spots.  Start up the car and drive it a good long while to dry
> everything out.

Hello,
If the original poster is going to take the gamble--make sure you remove
the air filter. REASON: If the air filter gets soaked with water, your car
won't start until you remove the filter.
Jason

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jmattis@attglobal.net - 19 Sep 2005 18:52 GMT
Air filter removal risks severe backfiring.  It should not get wet when
using a regular water hose.  Would need to replace filter before
starting car.
Sparky Spartacus - 20 Sep 2005 05:35 GMT
> Don't do it.  Pretty doesn't mean reliable.  This applies to a lot more
> than cars.
>
> Had an '84 GM that I washed 3 times with high pressure.  Looked nice.
> Lost various sensors every time.  $100+ a pop, way back then.

You did this 3 times? Ever figure out what was causing it?

:)
jmattis@attglobal.net - 20 Sep 2005 16:48 GMT
Stupidity was causing it.  Mine.

It wasn't the same thing each time, always something new.  And with the
total lack of on-board diagnostics, the dealer had to figure out what
was wrong with it, so it was expensive.

I chalk it up to thermal stress (warm water on hot sensor).
Misterbeets - 19 Sep 2005 21:45 GMT
I have always washed my engines. You have to make sure the distributor
cap is covered though. Plastic bag and tape. Wouldn't hurt to practice
removing the cap and wiping the inside dry beforehand. May have to let
it sit a bit and dry out from residual engine heat if it doesn't
immediately start, so it's best done on a sunny summer day.

Or WD40 followed by soapy water for the faint of heart.
jim beam - 20 Sep 2005 04:52 GMT
> I have always washed my engines. You have to make sure the distributor
> cap is covered though. Plastic bag and tape. Wouldn't hurt to practice
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> Or WD40 followed by soapy water for the faint of heart.

wd40 can rot your rubbers.  be careful with it.
Fijoy George - 20 Sep 2005 04:41 GMT
Thanks to all who replied. I am not gonna wash the engine. :)

-Fijoy

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> Thanks
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