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Car Forum / Honda Cars / September 200506 accord DRL's
is it possible to get the factory or dealer to deactivate the DRL's? I HATE daytime running lights (had them in my lumina) they are "supposed" to be a safety feature but I really see it as a ploy between car makers and light bulb makers in order to sell more lights. I don't believe insurance companies give a discount for having this "safety feature" on your car, do they? > is it possible to get the factory or dealer to deactivate the DRL's? I HATE > daytime running lights (had them in my lumina) they are "supposed" to be a > safety feature but I really see it as a ploy between car makers and light > bulb makers in order to sell more lights. I don't believe insurance > companies give a discount for having this "safety feature" on your car, do > they? GEICO does--check with your insurance company. The cost of the bulbs is negligible, and one's car is infinitely more visible to other drivers with them on--particularly the cars of those idiots that don't turn on their lights when it's very gray out or near dusk. Now, I'm ticked off when they're too bright, but that's another matter. > is it possible to get the factory or dealer to deactivate the DRL's? I HATE > daytime running lights (had them in my lumina) they are "supposed" to be a > safety feature but I really see it as a ploy between car makers and light > bulb makers in order to sell more lights. I don't believe insurance > companies give a discount for having this "safety feature" on your car, do > they? -------------------------------- Guessing you're in America? Ask them to kill the seatbelt buzzer and remove the airbag warning stickers too. See what response you get. It doesn't matter what country you're in, safety features aren't going to get 'undone' by a dealer. I hear the lawyers circling the wagons already. 'Curly' >> is it possible to get the factory or dealer to deactivate the DRL's? I >> HATE [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > 'Curly' haha yes I am a "dumb" american I guess, lol I guess the way I look at it, if this "Safety" feature was so important, why wouldn't it be mandated by the government? (i.e. like the airbags you want me to remove). > >> is it possible to get the factory or dealer to deactivate the DRL's? I > >> HATE [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > if this "Safety" feature was so important, why wouldn't it be mandated by > the government? (i.e. like the airbags you want me to remove). -------------------------------- They ARE mandated by the government (My Government) and have been since 1991. I expect they save more lives in Canada since it's dark a lot earlier during the cold seasons. Sad part: The farmers who really need DRLs are the ones who don't replace them when the bulbs burn out. This might start a BIG flame war (again). Another reason they aren't mandated by your Government . . Your government knows that FORD still hasn't figured out how to build DRLs that actually work. :-( 'Curly' > This might start a BIG flame war (again). > Another reason they aren't mandated by your Government . . Your > government knows that FORD still hasn't figured out how to build DRLs > that actually work. :-( ROFL!! > They ARE mandated by the government (My Government) and have been since > 1991. I expect they save more lives in Canada since it's dark a lot > earlier during the cold seasons. Sad part: The farmers who really need > DRLs are the ones who don't replace them when the bulbs burn out. I agree with the use of DRLs, just not how many companies implement them. High beams at lower wattage still equals a beam aimed too high. I avoid the issue by running with my headlights on at all times. While my Honda doesn't have DRLs, my wife's minivan does and my last pickup did. By running with the lights on, I have running lights in my non-DRL equipped vehicle ('01 Accord) and defeat the high beam DRLs in my other vehicles by turning on the low beams. > This might start a BIG flame war (again). > Another reason they aren't mandated by your Government . . Your > government knows that FORD still hasn't figured out how to build DRLs > that actually work. :-( >They ARE mandated by the government (My Government) and have been since >1991. I expect they save more lives in Canada since it's dark a lot >earlier during the cold seasons. Sad part: The farmers who really need >DRLs are the ones who don't replace them when the bulbs burn out. IOW, your government thinks you are not smart enough to turn on your lights when they are needed. >This might start a BIG flame war (again). >Another reason they aren't mandated by your Government . . Your >government knows that FORD still hasn't figured out how to build DRLs >that actually work. :-( The is one of those rare times when they are doing the right thing. The only folks who want DRL's are GM. They have foisted them on many unsuspecting car buyers. That is another reason why I did not buy a GM vehicle. -------------- Alex > IOW, your government thinks you are not smart enough to turn on your lights > when they are needed. For many people, they are correct. >> is it possible to get the factory or dealer to deactivate the DRL's? I HATE >> daytime running lights (had them in my lumina) they are "supposed" to be a >> safety feature but I really see it as a ploy between car makers and light >> bulb makers in order to sell more lights rant on I'm sorry, but I have to ... So many conspiracy theorists. Yeah, it is always the big bad auto companies ... NOT. Do you think they really wanted to re-engineer a system for a potential to make a few $ on a light 5 years down the road. And piss off customers in the process? The only car I've had lights go out on was my old Prelude which consumed about a dozen! (non-DRL). No, it was a gov't reg. Plain and simple. DRL's do help. So many people leave their lights off. Some accidently. Some because they are idiots who think that saving 100W is worth risking their, and everyone elses, life. People still haven't figured out that during rain, fog, or dawn/dusk that the reason for turning on lights is not to help you see, but so that the other guy can see YOU. Why do you think motorcycles have lights on all the time? How many motorcyclists do you see complain about this? I turn my lights on my Miata all the time (non-DRL). I know plenty of Miata drivers do the same. Why? Because we know that many drivers are half-asleep and don't see small vehicles. Being more visible by turning lights on makes sense. They should probably make the brake lights come on at a reduced level too. /rant off. > DRL's do help. So many people leave their lights off. Some > accidently. Some because they are idiots who think that saving 100W [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > drivers are half-asleep and don't see small vehicles. Being more > visible by turning lights on makes sense. well ym 2001 maxima the lights come on automatically, does the accord do this? I always turn my lights on in the rain or snow, but not during the day time >>>is it possible to get the factory or dealer to deactivate the DRL's? I HATE >>>daytime running lights (had them in my lumina) they are "supposed" to be a [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > visible by turning lights on makes sense. They should probably make > the brake lights come on at a reduced level too. So they'll look like tail lights? >DRL's do help. No they don't. >So many people leave their lights off. Some >accidently. Some because they are idiots who think that saving 100W >is worth risking their, and everyone elses, life. People still >haven't figured out that during rain, fog, or dawn/dusk that the >reason for turning on lights is not to help you see, but so that the >other guy can see YOU. DRL's are not a substitute for your regular headlights, which are what should be used in the conditions you describe. >Why do you think motorcycles have lights on all the time? How many >motorcyclists do you see complain about this? Motorcyclists complain about DRL's all the time. >I turn my lights on my Miata all the time (non-DRL). You just proved why DRL's are not necessary. You can reach down and turn on your lights when you think they are necessary. -------------- Alex >>DRL's do help. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > DRL's are not a substitute for your regular headlights, which are what > should be used in the conditions you describe. No argument re: the above, but I believe the DRLs are to increase the vehicle's visibility (so other drivers see it), not to imptove the driver's vision. > >>DRL's do help. > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > vehicle's visibility (so other drivers see it), not to imptove the > driver's vision. ---------------------------------------- Yeah, the 'D' stands for DAYTIME, and they work fantastic, especially on overcast days, or when somebody is coming at you with the sun behind them. DRL's are a perfect substitute for your regular headlights, during the conditions described, because they save on fuel by drawing WAY LESS power, and they're on, whether the driver is thinking / informed / smart, or not. One rare example where our government actually made a good decision on our behalf. (mandatory in Canada) 'Curly' > >>DRL's do help. > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > vehicle's visibility (so other drivers see it), not to imptove the > driver's vision. According to a 2004 U.S. DOT study, "An Assessment of Crash-Reducing Effectiveness of Passenger Vehicle Daytime Running Lamps (DRLs)": Results based on simple odds indicate that from 1995 to 2001: • DRLs reduced opposite direction daytime fatal crashes by 5 percent. • DRLs reduced opposite direction/angle daytime non-fatal crashes by 5 percent. • DRLs reduced non-motorists, pedestrians and cyclists, daytime fatalities in single-vehicle crashes by 12 percent. • DRLs reduced daytime opposite direction fatal crashes of a passenger vehicle with a motorcycle by 23 percent. http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-30/NCSA/Rpts/2004/809- 760/images/AssessmentofDRLs.pdf --Gene >Guessing you're in America? Ask them to kill the seatbelt buzzer and >remove the airbag warning stickers too. See what response you get. It >doesn't matter what country you're in, safety features aren't going to >get 'undone' by a dealer. I hear the lawyers circling the wagons >already. DRL's are not a safety feature. -------------- Alex |
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