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Car Forum / Honda Cars / September 2005Rear Civic wheel bearing update.
I had a chance to check my friend's car. The main source of noise was the tire, but there is more noise from that wheele then from the other side or either of mine. He only drives around own at speeds of less then 45 for short distances. When he gets his next disability check at the first of Oct he will order a replacement from Manchester Honda. The local consensus is that the bearing is very unlikely to sieze under the driving conditions I have discribed. I am a little leary but it is his car not mine. What are the chances that he will be able to get away with what I consider to be an insane, or desperate, course of action? Thanks for the advice and comments. It is not going to be near as tough as I feared. He had teh rear brakes shoes replaced in the spring and teh drum shoudl come "right off". Or at least hat is my hope. Terry > I had a chance to check my friend's car. The main source of noise > was the tire, but there is more noise from that wheele then from [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Terry ======================= I was surprised to find you can get wheel bearings (hub) from places like NAPA and Canadian Tire. WAY cheaper. 'Curly' > I had a chance to check my friend's car. The main source of noise > was the tire, but there is more noise from that wheele then from [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > very unlikely to sieze under the driving conditions I have discribed. > I am a little leary but it is his car not mine. Jack up the wheel and spin it by hand. If the bearing is bad, you'll know right away (rumble rumble). Those rear bearings don't go bad very often, since they are well-protected from the weather, unlike the fronts.  SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ Jack up the wheel and spin it by hand. If the bearing is bad, you'll know right away (rumble rumble). Those rear bearings don't go bad very often, since they are well-protected from the weather, unlike the fronts. -- TeGGeR® +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In a post some time ago in thsi NG I think you mentioned that an unloaded wheel bearing could be silent. This one is "silent" tothe ear. I am going to use a high gain mic/amp to listen to weak sounds. If nothing else I am learing "stuff" that might help myself someday. I have to dig out an electronic stethoscope I built 3+ decades ago that used a crystal phono cartridge coupled to a uA709 for just this task. At the time my Honda CB350 was acting funny and I suspected the front wheel bearings. Would you agree the risk of the bearing siezing is minimal with the conditions Istated? Terry >> Jack up the wheel and spin it by hand. If the bearing is bad, you'll >> know [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > In a post some time ago in thsi NG I think you mentioned > that an unloaded wheel bearing could be silent. Not me. Every bad bearing I have personally encountered was either rough to the hand when spun, or rumbled audibly. I'm sure some are silnet, but I don't know how common that is. Bearings normally go bad for three reasons: 1) Water ingress that causes rust (fronts are prone to this), or 2) impact that damages the balls or puts little dents in the races, or 3) the surface of the balls starts flaking off from compression stress (typical of transmission bearings). All of these conditions normally result in noise. <snip> > Would you agree the risk of the bearing siezing is > minimal with the conditions Istated? Yes. Very minimal. But...Tell your friend to keep an ear out for odd noises. If he suddenly starts hearing a very loud howling from the rear, STOP THE CAR IMMEDIATELY! SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ Not me. Every bad bearing I have personally encountered was either rough to the hand when spun, or rumbled audibly. I'm sure some are silnet, but I don't know how common that is. Bearings normally go bad for three reasons: 1) Water ingress that causes rust (fronts are prone to this), or 2) impact that damages the balls or puts little dents in the races, or 3) the surface of the balls starts flaking off from compression stress (typical of transmission bearings). All of these conditions normally result in noise. <snip> > Would you agree the risk of the bearing siezing is > minimal with the conditions Istated? Yes. Very minimal. But...Tell your friend to keep an ear out for odd noises. If he suddenly starts hearing a very loud howling from the rear, STOP THE CAR IMMEDIATELY! -- TeGGeR® +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I have relayed your comments to him and I am certain he will follow the advice. I will not be able to get over unitl Sat afternoon, I will test it and post the results here. I found my usper doper eletcronic stethyscope and it still works! I intend to jack my car up and listen to what I think are good bearings to get a feel for how "noisy" they are. I ambettingthat one could capture the soundandrun it through a PC wiht an audio FFT/waterfall program and detect war long before failure. Terry |
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