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question on accords mileage
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dufffman@gmail.com - 04 Oct 2005 22:52 GMT Hi,
Just recently bought a 2004 Accord EXL w/navigation and was wondering about hte mileage that it should provide? I live and drive mostly in NYC (drive about 5 miles during the week) and maybe 200 miles on weekends (usually out to long island). How much mileage do you guys think a car like this should give me? I will put up my numbers after some responses.
And how often should I get my oil changed? (sorry dont know much about cars). And should I pay the extra money to go to a honda dealer, or would a local station suffice? And any other regular maintenance tips that anyone could recommend to me? I would much appreciate it. I really want to try and take care of this beautiful car, as its my most precious investment.
Help is much appreciated.
Thanks,
'Curly Q. Links' - 05 Oct 2005 00:36 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Thanks, ---------------------------------
If you're only putting on five miles a week, your mileage figures will be TOTALLY DOWN THE TOILET because your engine never even gets warmed up. Your car would be a very bad car to buy used, since you're hardly ever operating the engine in the correct operating temperature range. Your maint schedule is SEVERE, for sure (change oil often, based on time, not mileage).
'Curly' 'Curly'
Elbert - 05 Oct 2005 00:38 GMT >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Thanks, I get about 28 MPG in combined hwy and city driving, with the majority of my time spent on the hwy. I commute 100+ miles per day to work via the interstate. Of course I do exceed the speed limit most of the time. I have a 1999 EX Accord 4cyl.
You don't say if your car is a 4cyl or 6cyl, but I would expect that you get similar to a little better mileage with your car.
I would suggest you get the oil changed based on time, not mileage since you drive few miles. Something like every 4 months or so.
I live in the south....but the local Honda dealership has a very competitive price for oil changes so I see no savings. Local dealer charges around $28.00 for an oil change. If you have a local shop close to you and their price is reasonable I see no reason not to use them. My Honda dealer is close to where I work so I can get other things done there if I need to, at the same time. --- Elbert Clarke elbert.clarke@**adelphia.net remove ** to email
dufffman@gmail.com - 05 Oct 2005 04:10 GMT Sorry, its a 4 cyl
> You don't say if your car is a 4cyl or 6cyl, but I would expect that > you get similar to a little better mileage with your car. > > I would suggest you get the oil changed based on time, not mileage > since you drive few miles. Something like every 4 months or so. I used to get my Corolla's oil changed every 3 mts. 4 mts is more applicable to an accord?
> I live in the south....but the local Honda dealership has a very > competitive price for oil changes so I see no savings. Local dealer > charges around $28.00 for an oil change. If you have a local shop > close to you and their price is reasonable I see no reason not to use > them. My Honda dealer is close to where I work so I can get other > things done there if I need to, at the same time. I dont mind paying the extra $10, if indeed Honda dealerships can add that extra "value" for the oil change. I've spend $18K on my car, and 40 more bucks a year wont hurt me too much. =) For my corolla I just went to the local gas station (not to say I didn't like my corolla, loved it in fact, but was no accord =). But for the accord I am just wondering if its better?
Thanks for your response. Right now I am averaging about 20 mpg on average (unless the trip computer is flawed). I did see that number increase the one weekend I commuted out to Long Island which makes me think its just the city driving thats guzzling up the gas. But thats the price I suppose you pay for living in NYC!
Besides that do you recommend any other 'maintenance' for my car? Right now I get a "M'nt reqd" everytime I turn on my car, which I am assuming is to get an oil changed? (pls correct me if I am wrong). I plan to get it changed on Saturday.
Advice is much appreciated. I am determined to keep this car in good shape.. =)
'Curly Q. Links' - 05 Oct 2005 05:18 GMT > Besides that do you recommend any other 'maintenance' for my car? > Right now I get a "M'nt reqd" everytime I turn on my car, which I am [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Advice is much appreciated. I am determined to keep this car in good > shape.. =) -----------------------
Looks like you've found one of the best resources there is around. A good idea I'd suggest: Keep the owner's manual at home, wherever your reading room / throne room is. That way everybody will find out some of the not-too obvious features about your car, like how to lock the doors without the key or remote, or how to jack it up (and where to find the jack). That MAINT light is covered in the manual too.
Hand washing and waxing is a good value-builder too, since you'll stay on top of tiny paint chips and you'll be able to show the next owner the kind of care you took of the paint. Waxed cars last longer and get better fuel mileage too. They look WAY sexier in the rain too.
'Curly'
noydb - 05 Oct 2005 06:08 GMT
>Besides that do you recommend any other 'maintenance' for my car? >Right now I get a "M'nt reqd" everytime I turn on my car, which I am >assuming is to get an oil changed? (pls correct me if I am wrong). I >plan to get it changed on Saturday. That "M'nt reqd" light is just a reminder to get your 20,000 mile maintenance taken care of (it's in the owner's manual) It's things like rotate the tires, check belts, replace air filters...that sort of stuff. When a mechanic performs all the scheduled maintenance, he then resets that light...it'll start coming on again at near 30,000 miles. I find it kind of irritating. My recent trip to the dealer to deal with the 30k light was a $270. visit. Mine is a 2003 4cyl Accord... The throttle response and the 5 speed automatic are the best I've ever encountered.. I'm amazed every time I drive the thing. On long highway trips I usually get 32mpg. City driving is in the upper twenties.
Cheers, --N
dufffman@gmail.com - 05 Oct 2005 14:05 GMT Thanks for your reply.
> That "M'nt reqd" light is just a reminder to get your 20,000 mile > maintenance taken care of (it's in the owner's manual) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > My recent trip to the dealer to deal with the 30k light was a $270. > visit. So when I go to the Honda dealership do I need to ask for a specific kind of maintenance? Or just tell them that I get the "M'nt reqd" light and they'll know what to do? And I presume it would be advisable to go to a dealership for this and not my local gas station, right?
> Mine is a 2003 4cyl Accord... > The throttle response and the 5 speed automatic are the best I've ever > encountered.. I'm amazed every time I drive the thing. > On long highway trips I usually get 32mpg. > City driving is in the upper twenties. Yea.. I wish my car in city driving was in the upper twenties.. anything I can do about that? I use regular gas, could that be the difference?
As always, help is much appreciated.
Thanks,
> Cheers, --N E Meyer - 05 Oct 2005 15:50 GMT On 10/5/05 8:05 AM, in article 1128517504.647078.66290@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com, "dufffman@gmail.com"
> Thanks for your reply. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > kind of maintenance? Or just tell them that I get the "M'nt reqd" > light and they'll know what to do? All the light means is that a predefined mileage clock has gone off. You might need an oil change. Telling the dealer (or many other mechanics, for that matter) to do whatever it needs is like saying "I'm stupid, please take all my money." Get out the maintenance schedule that came with the car and look at it. It tells you what should be done at various mileages and time intervals . Don't fall for the maintenance special that most dealers offer. It is usually a super rip-off.
> And I presume it would be advisable > to go to a dealership for this and not my local gas station, right? The corner gas station is usually more than capable of doing an oil change and performing any other checks that might be needed. You can reset the light yourself (it's in the owners manual, as was previously mentioned).
>> Mine is a 2003 4cyl Accord... >> The throttle response and the 5 speed automatic are the best I've ever [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >> Cheers, --N noydb - 06 Oct 2005 16:37 GMT
>So when I go to the Honda dealership do I need to ask for a specific >kind of maintenance? Or just tell them that I get the "M'nt reqd" >light and they'll know what to do? And I presume it would be advisable >to go to a dealership for this and not my local gas station, right? Any mechanic will do it. Check out the list...it's pretty simple stuff. I didn't know you could switch off the light yourself...I didn't delve deeply enough into the owner's manual.
>> Mine is a 2003 4cyl Accord... >> The throttle response and the 5 speed automatic are the best I've ever [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >anything I can do about that? I use regular gas, could that be the >difference? Regular gas is fine. Manhattan is the problem. Jackrabbit starts are almost required there, or you will be mowed down by the cabs. I used to go down to Manhattan to drive around just for sport. It's about the most competitive driving you'll find. Listen for all the mini-beeps from the cabs that let you know someone's coming up fast on your right, or someone has staked a claim to the lane you're coveting. You can almost drive with your eyes closed...just listen for the bips...("use the force, Luke...") Anyways, it's always an exhilerating experience, but it's murder on gas mileage. The key to good city mpg is easy on the throttle...especially from a standing start. Easier said than done in Manhattan. Also, always always always let the car warm up a bit before you drive it. I usually give it 30 seconds minimum before putting it in drive.
Cheers, --N
Elbert - 06 Oct 2005 00:39 GMT >Sorry, its a 4 cyl >> You don't say if your car is a 4cyl or 6cyl, but I would expect that [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >Advice is much appreciated. I am determined to keep this car in good >shape.. =) one of those maintenance lights you can reset yourself... look in the owners manual.
as far as maintenance... I change my oil around 4K miles, I change the transmission fluid every 30K miles and rotate the tires around 7K miles. Every now and then I have to get the throttle body cleaned, but other than that ....your good. I don't follow the magic oil and fuel additives, and I don't do the 30K and other services because I don't see the benefit. By the way my car has 140K miles on it and still running fine. Keep an eye on the air filter and you'll be fine. Honda makes a great product, not a lot of service required. --- Elbert Clarke elbert.clarke@**adelphia.net remove ** to email
dufffman@gmail.com - 20 Oct 2005 03:22 GMT > one of those maintenance lights you can reset yourself... look in the > owners manual. where? I might have missed it, but didn't see the manual detailing that part?
Thanks,
> as far as maintenance... I change my oil around 4K miles, I change > the transmission fluid every 30K miles and rotate the tires around 7K [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > elbert.clarke@**adelphia.net > remove ** to email HPGrn - 21 Oct 2005 02:59 GMT >> one of those maintenance lights you can reset yourself... look in the >> owners manual. > >where? I might have missed it, but didn't see the manual detailing >that part? It's been in the manual since the 01 models, at least.
jmattis@attglobal.net - 05 Oct 2005 21:54 GMT 3 months, 4 months, whatever. The oil change interval is driven by how little you are driving, and the moisture from burning gas in a cold engine turns the oil into acid. Literally. I suspect you mean you're calling the garage, having it brought down once during the week, for a 5 mile trip. So that wouldn't be too bad on it & I'd go with 4 months. The long weekend drives will help a lot to keep the oil in shape, and your battery.
I'd personally pay a couple extra bucks to the Honda stealer for oil changes. If the plug falls out, or the old gasket is left on, you're in better shape to get a recovery than going to an oil change outfit. They are ALL using the least experienced "Mechanic" to do this work that they can find. Someone who doesn't know any more than you do, and couldn't care less.
Besides, I'll bet you pay more for parking than you do for car payments. What's a couple bucks more?
Sparky Spartacus - 05 Oct 2005 22:18 GMT > 3 months, 4 months, whatever. The oil change interval is driven by how > little you are driving, and the moisture from burning gas in a cold [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > that they can find. Someone who doesn't know any more than you do, and > couldn't care less. That's why I do my own oil changes.
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