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Car Forum / Honda Cars / October 2005trouble starting - 89 accord
I have a 89 accord, 190,000 miles and has been a great car, however, it has begun to be tempermental when it comes to starting. Today it started just fine, but after it was shut off for about 20 minutes and i tried to restart it would turn over and immediately quit. I thought it may be a vacuum problem but did not see any loose hoses. Any suggestions? > I have a 89 accord, 190,000 miles and has been a great car, however, it has > begun to be tempermental when it comes to starting. Today it started just > fine, but after it was shut off for about 20 minutes and i tried to > restart it would turn over and immediately quit. I thought it may be a > vacuum problem but did not see any loose hoses. Any suggestions? When you say "it would turn over and immediately quit", do you mean that it fires up and actually runs for an instant before quitting? Or does it keep turning but will not fire up? If it's the former, I am guessing it's the ignition switch or the igniter. If it's the latter, and this would apply if your car is fuel-injected and especially if the weather is warm, the culprit would be the main relay. It starts (fires) and then immediately quits. It is fuel injected though. What does the ignition switch or a main relay usually run? > I have a 89 accord, 190,000 miles and has been a great car, however, > it has begun to be tempermental when it comes to starting. Today it > started just fine, but after it was shut off for about 20 minutes and > i tried to restart it would turn over and immediately quit. I thought > it may be a vacuum problem but did not see any loose hoses. Any > suggestions? Main Relay is first culprit. http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun  SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > I have a 89 accord, 190,000 miles and has been a great car, however, it has > begun to be tempermental when it comes to starting. Today it started just > fine, but after it was shut off for about 20 minutes and i tried to > restart it would turn over and immediately quit. I thought it may be a > vacuum problem but did not see any loose hoses. Any suggestions? --------------------------- If it starts to run but dies the second you let your hand off the key, it's the ignition switch. Bad main relay won't usually manifest except when the car is already not running. . . the vibration of the engine is usually enough to keep it sparking along. That's why smacking the dash in position II (or chilling down the interior) will often start an otherwise 'unstartable' Honda. The relay connects for a second, primes the fuel rail, then the car starts and runs because of the vibration. Go into 7-Eleven for five minutes and it will not start again :-( 'Curly' Are you saying impact on the main relay could start the problem? I don't get it by smacking dash board with key on Position II would start the car. Please explain to me clearly. I need to understand. > Are you saying impact on the main relay could start the problem? > > I don't get it by smacking dash board with key on Position II would > start the car. > > Please explain to me clearly. I need to understand. You force momentary contact between two pieces of cracked solder. You never looked at this page, did you? http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/startproblems.html#mainrelay SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >> I have a 89 accord, 190,000 miles and has been a great car, however, >> it has begun to be tempermental when it comes to starting. Today it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > If it starts to run but dies the second you let your hand off the key, > it's the ignition switch. It's usually the main relay with that symptom, actually. In fact, that's *the* most common main relay symptom. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ I have the cold starting problem in my 89 Accord . Any idea as to the cost of replacing the relay and igniter? I read that might be the problem. Thanks herb777@webtv.net (Herb) wrote in news:9288-434D5D94-75@storefull- 3353.bay.webtv.net: > I have the cold starting problem in my 89 Accord . Any idea as to the > cost of replacing the relay and igniter? I read that might be the > problem. Thanks Symptoms? Blindly throwing parts at the car is harmful to your wallet. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > I have the cold starting problem in my 89 Accord . Any idea as to the > cost of replacing the relay and igniter? I read that might be the > problem. Thanks Usually cold start problems doesn't deal with the igniter or main relay. Does it crank or does it just click? Okay,here's what happens! After sitting all night,I press the accelerator peddle to the floor once.( the manual instructs this). I turn the key,and it kicks right over,then sputters and dies. Again I press the peddle to the floor. (manual instructions again). It then cranks,sometimes for 10 to 15 seconds (doesn't start). I shut down and wait maybe 10 seconds,and turn the key again. Sometimes after cranking,it will fire right up. Sometimes The battery will start to discharge. After that just give up and drive another vehicle. I also re-charge the battery for the next fiasco. IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY !!! > Okay,here's what happens! > After sitting all night,I press the accelerator peddle to the floor [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the battery for the next fiasco. > IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY !!! Presuming that the car is a DX, LX and not an LXi? Either your fuel filter and/or carburetor is clogged. You can check this by removing the air filter and look at the bowel fuel level thru the eyeglass if it has one. If there is fuel inside the bowel then check to make sure there is fuel dribbling into the carb after it starts and idles by peeping inside the carb. The problem could be that you've used up all the fuel during starting. The solution, if this is the case is a carb overhaul and replace two fuel filters. herb777@webtv.net (Herb) wrote in news:18179-434E9C88-250@storefull- 3357.bay.webtv.net: > Okay,here's what happens! <snip> Do you have fuel injection or a carburetor? SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ Carburetor herb777@webtv.net (Herb) wrote in news:19553-434F9E26-428@storefull- 3351.bay.webtv.net: > Carburetor What happens if you press and release the gas pedal two or three times in a row, hold it half-way, then try to start it? SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ If this only happens when cold, you need to give it more gas, both before cranking and after it starts to fire. Every pedal pump squirts a shot of gas into the carb. Do this until the car runs on its own. If this makes no difference, your accelerator pump, in the carb, has a torn diaphragm. Don't do this to a warm engine though, or you'll flood it and then you'll have to wait several minutes to restart. I've similar problem. My 89 civic with 200,000 miles. Today I have had to wait 3 hr to start the car. The car starting problem is getting worst these days. It refuses to start in first try in the morning. I have had to try 3 or 4 take around more than a minute to start the car. That's normal these days. Today after driving 30 min and shut the engine off, tried again it refused to start. I replaced main relay but no luck. I banged the starter and starter solonoid, no luck. My option was wait to cool down. Around 2 hr, I decided that ok this is it it will not start forever. I decided to tow it. Talking to the towing driver, he asked me for $95 for it. I had no money for that I gave up towing... I just have to wait another hour. Yeah it did start when the sun went down when the car temp gauge down almost to bottom. Why it does not start in the morning when the car is cool? Why it does not start when the car is hot with the temperaure hot outside? Are these caused by same problem? Main Relay? Probably not because I replaced main relay. > I've similar problem. My 89 civic with 200,000 miles. Today I have had > to wait [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I banged the starter and starter solonoid, no luck. My option was wait > to cool down. It doesn't crank? Something to do with the clutch or console switch? 1959 Ford pick-up truck? |
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