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Car Forum / Honda Cars / October 2005

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pauls@ok.com - 14 Oct 2005 14:07 GMT
Most dealers in Alberta Canada are charging approx. $400+ above MSRP.
Only found one dealer who will match the price as quoted on honda.ca
web site.
I realize that this is a hot comodity at the present time, but this
kind of practice  leaves a lot to be desired from the Honda
dealerships around here.
I feel that the MSRP leaves the dealer with enough profit to carry on
with their buisness.
I would like to know if anyone was able to purchase below MSRP and
what was involved.

thanks in advance.
T L - 14 Oct 2005 14:55 GMT
I haven't gone to get a quote yet here in Manitoba, but maybe its because you
guys have no PST out there, and they figure they can get more since the rest
of Canada is paying more already.

t

>Most dealers in Alberta Canada are charging approx. $400+ above MSRP.
>Only found one dealer who will match the price as quoted on honda.ca
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>
>thanks in advance.
Larry B. - 14 Oct 2005 19:30 GMT
Not sure if it is even legal for them to charge more than MRSP in Alberta, I
know they can't in Ontario. I would not be in a big hurry to buy the first
ones. Even Honda has had initial quality control problems with their new
models. eg. Odyssey transmissions and Accord rattles. Why not wait until the
storm over the new one calms down and they have fixed some of the little
problems that the very new models will inevitably have?

Larry B.
2004 Accord (yes..I waited)

> Most dealers in Alberta Canada are charging approx. $400+ above MSRP.
> Only found one dealer who will match the price as quoted on honda.ca
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> thanks in advance.
TWW - 14 Oct 2005 23:24 GMT
> Not sure if it is even legal for them to charge more than MRSP in Alberta, I
> know they can't in Ontario. I would not be in a big hurry to buy the first
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> >
> > thanks in advance.

I read where the previous model Civic was not fully sorted out until year 3
of the model.  Unless you are compelled to buy, waiting until next year may
not be a bad idea, particularly since the new Civic is substantially
changed -- such as drive by wire throttle.
Pars - 18 Oct 2005 05:55 GMT
> I read where the previous model Civic was not fully sorted out until year
> 3
> of the model.  Unless you are compelled to buy, waiting until next year
> may
> not be a bad idea, particularly since the new Civic is substantially
> changed -- such as drive by wire throttle.

Drive-by-wire maybe new to Honda, but it's an already established technology
with
other manufactors. And, Honda is the best at improving on old ideas.
Hyundai/Kia
might be good a copying it, but improving on it, takes some real talent.

My guess is, if there's any defects in the 2006 Civic, it'd probably be
isolated to the
interior ammenities.

Pars
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 18 Oct 2005 10:50 GMT
> Drive-by-wire maybe new to Honda, but it's an already established technology
> with
> other manufactors.

Like VW, where they put the throttle position sensor IN THE GAS
PEDAL--you know, the thing that's right there with your nasty,
snow-filled shoes and boots all the time, the thing that costs $124 to
replace when it goes bad and puts the car into limp-home mode.
pauls@ok.com - 18 Oct 2005 13:54 GMT
>> Drive-by-wire maybe new to Honda, but it's an already established technology
>> with
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>snow-filled shoes and boots all the time, the thing that costs $124 to
>replace when it goes bad and puts the car into limp-home mode.

Thanks guys for the feedback.
One potential problem for us northern drivers are the windshield
wipers.
The way they are positioned it seems that they would likely freeze up
and also collect snow while driving at low speeds.
I asked several dealers about this and the response is "I don't know"
At this point in time I'm going to wait till the weather gets a little
bit colder and do a winter test drive.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 18 Oct 2005 21:04 GMT
> One potential problem for us northern drivers are the windshield
> wipers.
> The way they are positioned it seems that they would likely freeze up
> and also collect snow while driving at low speeds.

My 94 Lexus allows me to put the wipers into "winter mode"--where they
don't hide down below the windshield, but rather stay up in the upper
resting position (as if they're paused between interval wipes).
Ernest Cassirer - 18 Oct 2005 22:50 GMT
You can do the same by turning the engine off before turning the wipers off.

> > One potential problem for us northern drivers are the windshield
> > wipers.
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> don't hide down below the windshield, but rather stay up in the upper
> resting position (as if they're paused between interval wipes).
Brandy  Alexandre - 30 Oct 2005 04:23 GMT
<pauls@ok.com> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda:

>>> Drive-by-wire maybe new to Honda, but it's an already
>>> established technology with
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> know" At this point in time I'm going to wait till the weather
> gets a little bit colder and do a winter test drive.

They may not be ideal, but they're sure cool.  ;)

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Well, would you?

Brandy  Alexandre - 30 Oct 2005 04:21 GMT
<pauls@ok.com> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda:

> Most dealers in Alberta Canada are charging approx. $400+ above MSRP.
> Only found one dealer who will match the price as quoted on honda.ca
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> thanks in advance.

My dealer absolutely would not go below MSRP.  Why should he, really?  
Everyone seems to want this car.  The price is what the market will
bear and we have to like it or lump it.  Once the insurance adjuster
declared my '91 hatchback "totaled" they only gave three days' rental
car for me to buy something new.  It totally sucked and I was at the
mercy of Honda.  If I didn't already know what I wanted, I would have
been screwed.  I paid the MSRP of exactly $17,110 plus $550 destination
(and a bunch more in accessories).  Perhaps if I had until early next
year it would have been different, but that's the brakes [sic].

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Well, would you?

Allnews - 30 Oct 2005 16:46 GMT
Something for you fellow Atlantic Canadians to think of: I was going to buy
a 06 Civic also, but was so upset with Honda's inflexible pricing on the
Civic I ended up finding a left over, demo '05 Accord that ended up costing
me less than a new Civic when you take into consideration financing costs.
The Accord had more installed accessories too!  I couldn't justify paying
for a Civic when I could have gotten an Accord... Hopefully I won't regret
the decision.  So far I haven't....

> <pauls@ok.com> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda:
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> (and a bunch more in accessories).  Perhaps if I had until early next
> year it would have been different, but that's the brakes [sic].
Pars - 31 Oct 2005 00:49 GMT
> Something for you fellow Atlantic Canadians to think of: I was going to buy
> a 06 Civic also, but was so upset with Honda's inflexible pricing on the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> for a Civic when I could have gotten an Accord... Hopefully I won't regret
> the decision.  So far I haven't....

If you haven't already regretted your decision, I doubt you'll regret it in
the long run.
It's already known that the Accord can age gracefully, the 06 Civic still
has to
prove itself.

Pars

> > <pauls@ok.com> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> > (and a bunch more in accessories).  Perhaps if I had until early next
> > year it would have been different, but that's the brakes [sic].
Seth - 31 Oct 2005 03:27 GMT
> Something for you fellow Atlantic Canadians to think of: I was going to
> buy a 06 Civic also, but was so upset with Honda's inflexible pricing on
> the

Honda doesn't set the selling price, the market does.  Would you feel better
if they bumped the MSRP up $3K so you can get a deal at $2500 off?  Honda
just sets the MSRP at a fairly realistic level, not inflated for the purpose
of artificailly creating wiggle room.  But in the end, it is still the
market that determines the final selling price.  If the dealerships find
themselves with tons of cars not being sold at $x, then the price gets
marked down from there.

> Civic I ended up finding a left over, demo '05 Accord that ended up
> costing me less than a new Civic when you take into consideration
> financing costs. The Accord had more installed accessories too!  I
> couldn't justify paying for a Civic when I could have gotten an Accord...
> Hopefully I won't regret the decision.  So far I haven't....

As an Accord driver (140,000 miles on an '01) I doubt you will regret it in
the driveability or comfort departments.  If economy was your goal, even at
a higher price the Civic may have cost less in the long run, but time will
tell.
 
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