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Car Forum / Honda Cars / November 2005

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`87 Accord just stop running

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DZCAMMAN - 24 Oct 2005 07:28 GMT
`87 Accord fuel injected Stop running like someone turned off the key. fuel
pressure OK. No fuel getting to cylinders, plugs are dry. Main relay
checked out ok. Any ideas ??
Burt S. - 24 Oct 2005 13:23 GMT
> `87 Accord fuel injected Stop running like someone turned off the key. fuel
> pressure OK.

Possibly ignition electrical switch.  Dash light and BLK/YL should
have battery voltage when the ignition is switch to "ON."

> No fuel getting to cylinders, plugs are dry. Main relay
> checked out ok. Any ideas ??

Check the fuel injectors with a test light.
DZCAMMAN - 01 Nov 2005 04:15 GMT
I don’t know why I didn't think of it before but I only checked two plugs.
Then I thought if the timing belt snapped the intake valves could be in
the closed position. Sure enough the timing belt is toast. Thanks for
responding.
DZ
boobie - 03 Nov 2005 18:48 GMT
wow 18-yr-old Honda...what's the milage ?
Matt Ion - 04 Nov 2005 05:30 GMT
> wow 18-yr-old Honda...what's the milage ?

My current '87 Accord (my third now) is at 390,000km (about 244,000
miles).  My first '87 had 160,000km (100,000mi.) when I got it in '94
and 478,000km (just shy of 300,000mi.) when I wrote it off in '03.

These are great cars!

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boobie - 05 Nov 2005 08:08 GMT
"Matt Ion"
> wow 18-yr-old Honda...what's the milage ?
>
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>
> These are great cars!

Wow, what are your secrets ? you must baby the thing huh ;)
You musta be very good at car mechanics eh ?

I just got rid of my 90 Legend at <sigh>only</sigh> 160K miles for like
US$900.
It was in rather poor condition...I didn't take good care of it. :(

I suppose that car (Japan-built, awesome engine) in your hand
would last 500K miles.
TeGGeR® - 26 Oct 2005 00:03 GMT
> `87 Accord fuel injected Stop running like someone turned off the key.
> fuel pressure OK. No fuel getting to cylinders, plugs are dry. Main
> relay checked out ok. Any ideas ??

Have you checked for ECU codes?

Fuel pressure OK, but fuel not getting to injectors??? This does NOT make
sense. How do you know the pressure's OK?

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Burt S. - 26 Oct 2005 15:37 GMT
> Fuel pressure OK, but fuel not getting to injectors??? This does NOT make
> sense. How do you know the pressure's OK?

Yes it does. If you disconnect pin 3 on the main relay, you have pressure
but no injector. Note he said, "No fuel getting to cylinders."
TeGGeR® - 26 Oct 2005 19:15 GMT
>> Fuel pressure OK, but fuel not getting to injectors??? This does NOT
>> make sense. How do you know the pressure's OK?
>
> Yes it does. If you disconnect pin 3 on the main relay, you have
> pressure but no injector. Note he said, "No fuel getting to
> cylinders."

And so it says in my very own FAQ. You are 100% correct.

In fact, cracked solder to the injector feed is one of the failure modes of
the Main Relay, but...it will set a Check Engine light with a Code 16. If
no Code 16, then the ECU is seeing voltage when it tries to ground the
injectors.
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainrelayoperation/badmainrelay.html

To the OP: Is your Check Engine light on? Are error codes stored in the
ECU? How to check:
http://www.iequus.com/assets/manuals/3173_ICCR_E_14JAN03.pdf

Excerpt from above link:
"Access ECU (located under front driver’s seat) (H4) by moving seat
all the way back. Turn ignition on and observe LED on ECU for codes.
Codes blinked out by LED are separated by two second pause, then repeated.
For example:
2 blinks - two
second pause - 2 blinks = code 2 (H14)"

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DZCAMMAN - 01 Nov 2005 04:21 GMT
I don’t know why I didn't think of it before but I only checked two plugs.
Then I thought if the timing belt snapped the intake valves could be in
the closed position. Sure enough the timing belt is toast. Thanks for
responding.
DZ
 
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