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Car Forum / Honda Cars / November 20052006 Civic mileage too low?
I recently picked up a 2006 Civic EX and have noticed that after two tanks of gas, that the mileage is about 9km/liter. This is a wee bit low. Even my 2000 Accord generaly maintained a 10km/liter mileage. With the smaller Civic and smaller engine, I was expecting this to jump to 12-13km/liter but the opposite occured. Guess I'll take it in for a check next week, but was wondering if anyone else out there with the 2006 Civic has noticed this or has gotten near the theoretical mileage for it? TIA, Drew Drew <dwildstar30@nospam.nowhere.com> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda: > I recently picked up a 2006 Civic EX and have noticed that after > two tanks of gas, that the mileage is about 9km/liter. This is a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Drew I have the 06 Coupe LX and I was told that your true mileage may not be known for about 3000 miles (can't convert that to metric for you). I was very by-the-book on the break in period of 600 miles, and the two tank ratings I've done were 27.9 and then 30.2. Don't know if that helps.  SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? >I have the 06 Coupe LX and I was told that your true mileage may not be >known for about 3000 miles (can't convert that to metric for you). I >was very by-the-book on the break in period of 600 miles, and the two >tank ratings I've done were 27.9 and then 30.2. Don't know if that >helps. That's about what I was expecting, but my first 500km/300miles comes out to something like 21-22 MPG. :-( During this break-in period, I've tried to keep the RPMs under 3000 whenever possible. Typicaly the max RPMs I'm putting on the car is about 4000 and that's only when I merge onto the highway. -Drew Drew <dwildstar30@nospam.nowhere.com> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda: >>I have the 06 Coupe LX and I was told that your true mileage may >>not be known for about 3000 miles (can't convert that to metric [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -Drew I'd ask your dealer about it, then. It shouldn't be that bad. I have never been noticed so much in all my life since I got this car. People keep looking at it "Is that the new Civic? Wow!" Just had the teen chick at the Taco Bell drive-thru notice it. Amazing. SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? >I have never been noticed so much in all my life since I got this car. >People keep looking at it "Is that the new Civic? Wow!" Just had the >teen chick at the Taco Bell drive-thru notice it. Amazing. You know it. When I first saw the preliminary 06 Civic pictures a few months ago, I thought to myself "Looks like it should fly, not drive." Even felt more so when I sat in the driver's seat the first time. -Drew Drew <dwildstar30@nospam.nowhere.com> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda: >>I have never been noticed so much in all my life since I got this >>car. People keep looking at it "Is that the new Civic? Wow!" [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Drew It does fly. ;) SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? Brandy, How do you like the digital speedo? HPGrn <majorret310@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda: > Brandy, > > How do you like the digital speedo? It was distracting at first, but I think it's pretty cool. The digital "gauges" for fuel and temp, too. SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? >That's about what I was expecting, but my first 500km/300miles comes >out to something like 21-22 MPG. :-( > >During this break-in period, I've tried to keep the RPMs under 3000 >whenever possible. Typicaly the max RPMs I'm putting on the car is >about 4000 and that's only when I merge onto the highway. Okay the second 500 kilometers is looking a lot better. I managed 512 km on 41 liters...that comes out to 12.5km/l. That's MUCH better, granted I used 89 octane for that tank. Filled up on 87 and going on a road trip to Montreal today so should have more info at the end of the weekend. Also I'm thinking that the digital fuel gauge is a bit wacky. I see that it's broken down into 20 boxes. I was down to the last box before I filled up and the fillup came to 41 liters. With a 50 liter/13.3usgallon tank, that doesn't make sense. In that case I should only have been down to 3 boxes, not 1. -Drew 512KM per 41 Litre ( 29.4 mpg for the Americans) is about the same mileage as my 2000 Civic Sedan (which is equipped with an Automatic transmission). Pars > >That's about what I was expecting, but my first 500km/300miles comes > >out to something like 21-22 MPG. :-( [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > -Drew > 512KM per 41 Litre ( 29.4 mpg for the Americans) is about the same mileage > as my 2000 Civic Sedan (which is equipped with an Automatic transmission). I thought that 29.4 mpg for the Americans would be expressed as 35.3 MPG for those in the UK and Canada, and 6.6 liters/100km for The European community. 12.5 kilometers/litre would seem like an irregular measurement. How is fuel consumption measured in various parts of the world? http://www.microsoft.com Microsoft Calculator Plus has these conversions built in, but no clue which country uses which. Using Honda Web Sites, it looks like USA=mpg(US), Canada=Liters/100km, Germany=Liters/100=km, UK=Liters/100km and mpg(Imp), Australia=liters/100km --- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 dold wrote: > I thought that > 29.4 mpg for the Americans would be expressed as 35.3 MPG for those in [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Germany=Liters/100=km, UK=Liters/100km and mpg(Imp), > Australia=liters/100km Here in Canada, they use litres/100 km first, and sometimes mpg(Imp). I always use mpg(US) since I am usually comparing my mileage to American figures anyway. :-) > > 512KM per 41 Litre ( 29.4 mpg for the Americans) is about the same mileage > > as my 2000 Civic Sedan (which is equipped with an Automatic transmission). [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 35.3 MPG for those in the UK and Canada, and > 6.6 liters/100km for The European community. I thought 29.4 US MPG would work out to 8.0 Litres/100KM instead 6.6 L/100km The L/100KM is the standard method for measure here in Canada. It's interesting that most of the Advertisement will parade the UK MPG measurement instead of the US MPG. This can be misleading since most of the research/comparisons sites are in the US (which can get confused since Canadian and US basically share the same makes & models) > 12.5 kilometers/litre would seem like an irregular measurement. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > --- > Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 >> 6.6 liters/100km for The European community. > I thought 29.4 US MPG would work out to 8.0 Litres/100KM instead 6.6 L/100km So do I ;-) I got crossed up in my cutting and pasting and conversion factors. 235 / USmpg = L/100km. 235 / L/100km = USmpg. Signature--- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 Drew <dwildstar30@nospam.nowhere.com> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda: > Also I'm thinking that the digital fuel gauge is a bit wacky. I > see that it's broken down into 20 boxes. I was down to the last [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -Drew I'm not sure if the boxes are intended to represent a specific amount of fuel. I haven't taken it down to one yet because the low fuel light is a pest. SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? > I recently picked up a 2006 Civic EX and have noticed that after two > tanks of gas, that the mileage is about 9km/liter. This is a wee bit [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Drew Is this city, highway, or mixed? Are you a lead-foot driver? After about 5000km or so and with good driving habits, it should be broken in and the mileage should improve. You should take it for a few fairly lengthy highway runs during the break-in period. >Is this city, highway, or mixed? Are you a lead-foot driver? Mixed, about 150km/100miles highway & 50km/30miles city per week. >After about 5000km or so and with good driving habits, it should be broken >in and the mileage should improve. You should take it for a few fairly >lengthy highway runs during the break-in period. I'll probably take it on a roadtrip from Toronto to Montreal before the snows start, and see what it's like after that. Thanks, Drew >> I recently picked up a 2006 Civic EX and have noticed that after two >> tanks of gas, that the mileage is about 9km/liter. This is a wee bit [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >in and the mileage should improve. You should take it for a few fairly >lengthy highway runs during the break-in period. I took a 5-hour drive on the freeway to somwhere. According to the odometer and visual readout of the fuel gauge, I went 298 miles on half a tank of gas. My Honda Civic 2006 had about 300 miles prior to the trip. > I took a 5-hour drive on the freeway to somwhere. According to the > odometer and visual readout of the fuel gauge, which mean absolutely nothing. you DO know the only accurate way to measure MPG, dont you? sure hope ya arent telling everyone youre getting 60mpg. >> I took a 5-hour drive on the freeway to somwhere. According to the >> odometer and visual readout of the fuel gauge, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >you DO know the only accurate way to measure MPG, dont you? sure hope ya >arent telling everyone youre getting 60mpg. No, I'm not. As I'm sure I messed up somehow when setting up the trip odometer or something. I don't see how I could have gotten as good gas mileage as it had indicated. What is the canon way of measuring this. > I recently picked up a 2006 Civic EX and have noticed that after two > tanks of gas, that the mileage is about 9km/liter. This is a wee bit [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Drew Keep us informed. I think that many of us would be interested to confirm whether the new Civic gets close to the EPA estimates and whether it will better the older Civics. <<<<< I recently picked up a 2006 Civic EX and have noticed that after two tanks of gas, that the mileage is about 9km/liter. This is a wee bit low. Even my 2000 Accord generaly maintained a 10km/liter mileage. 1 US gallon = 3.785 liters. So, your 2006 Civic EX is giving 9km/liter, which is 34 mpg, which I think is OK. > <<<<< I recently picked up a 2006 Civic EX and have noticed that after > two [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 1 US gallon = 3.785 liters. So, your 2006 Civic EX is giving 9km/liter, > which is 34 mpg, which I think is OK. given that we're stuck with this low calorific value "reformulated" garbage gasoline that's been adulterated with ethanol, i'd say that's right! > 1 US gallon = 3.785 liters. So, your 2006 Civic EX is giving 9km/liter, > which is 34 mpg, which I think is OK. How in the hell did you come up with 34mpg from 9km/litre? 1 US gallon = 3.785 litres 1 litre = (1 / 3.785) = 0.264 US gallons 1 km = 0.621 miles Therefore: 9 km / 1 litre = (9 x 0.621) miles / (1 x 0.264) US gallons = 5.589 miles / 0.264 US gallons = 21.17 miles per US gallon >>1 US gallon = 3.785 liters. So, your 2006 Civic EX is giving 9km/liter, >>which is 34 mpg, which I think is OK. > > How in the hell did you come up with 34mpg from 9km/litre? He just forgot to convert km to miles. That's all. I agree. And 21 mpg is terrible. I currently get 39 mpg in my 2002 Civic LX coupe standard. That is the average over the life of the vehicle in combined city and highway miles. Sid >> 1 US gallon = 3.785 liters. So, your 2006 Civic EX is giving 9km/liter, >> which is 34 mpg, which I think is OK. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > = 5.589 miles / 0.264 US gallons > = 21.17 miles per US gallon > I agree. And 21 mpg is terrible. I currently get 39 mpg in my 2002 Civic > LX coupe standard. That is the average over the life of the vehicle in > combined city and highway miles. I use an 03 LX sedan 5 spd to commute -- about 70% highway and get right at 38-39, and that's running 75-80 mph. Even when I drive my 01 Prelude on the commute I get 27 or so. Given the 200 hp 2.2 litre Prelude, the 0-6 Civic needs to do better. I suspect the reports are low because the cars are not yet broken in. Maybe then they will get 40 or better mpg as claimed. > Sid > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > = 5.589 miles / 0.264 US gallons > > = 21.17 miles per US gallon Is your 06 EX have an automatic or standard transmission?. In the previous Civics, the Automatic were not able to simulate EPA, especially in the city. However, the standard tranny was able to match or surpass the EPA, even in the city. I can vouch for this, since my 98 5spd was able to do 700km/41L of mixed driving (but mostly highway), which happens to be my all-time best...and required extra attention in order to keep the revs as low as possible. The 06's 22MPG seems extremely low, regardless of brake-in or transmission type. Try coasting to make sure the brakes aren't dragging. Avoid out-of-the-way gas station (If you have to wait for the pumps to clear up in a bigger station, it's probably a good thing). Consumption tends to vary between premium and regular gas. Consider that the 06 is putting a lot of technology to work to optimize on the pre 3000 rpm range, the type/quality of gas could have the significant impact on efficiency. Also, are the tires properly inflated? btw, if your initial fill-up was done by the dealership, then there's no control and the mileage estimate on the first fill-up doesn't count. Pars 98 Civic Hatch > I recently picked up a 2006 Civic EX and have noticed that after two > tanks of gas, that the mileage is about 9km/liter. This is a wee bit [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Drew <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< High Tech Misfit Oct 30, 4:36 pm Therefore: 9 km / 1 litre = (9 x 0.621) miles / (1 x 0.264) US gallons = 5.589 miles / 0.264 US gallons = 21.17 miles per US gallon Ooops! Sorry about that. Thanks for the correction. I wonder where does this person "Drew" live. I could be Canada or Australia or someother country, since he menitioned 9Km/liter. In such a case the specification of Civic EX could be different, in that country. Drew: Can you please tell us the number of Cyls. HP, and weight of the car. > I recently picked up a 2006 Civic EX and have noticed that after two > tanks of gas, that the mileage is about 9km/liter. This is a wee bit [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the 2006 Civic has noticed this or has gotten near the theoretical > mileage for it? How many miles on this thing? 9km/liter is 34mpg on a US gallon. That's awfully darn good for a car that's not even broken in yet!!!! Your car will not get even close to its maximum gas mileage until about 10,000 miles (you can call that 15K km). Until you reach that odometer reading, don't worry about it. Oh, and do NOT change your oil for the first time until the manual says to! You will do the engine NO favors by changing it too soon! SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ > How many miles on this thing? > > 9km/liter is 34mpg on a US gallon. That's awfully darn good for a car > that's not even broken in yet!!!! Um, I think you forgot to convert the kilometres to miles. :-) 9 km / 1 litre = (9 x 0.621) miles / (1 x 0.264) US gallons = 5.589 miles / 0.264 US gallons = 21.17 miles per US gallon >> How many miles on this thing? >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > = 5.589 miles / 0.264 US gallons > = 21.17 miles per US gallon 1 gallon = 3.7854 liters. 9km per liter x 3.7854 = 34.0686. I made no mistakes. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ >>> How many miles on this thing? >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > I made no mistakes. You're right!!! I did!!! 34.0686mpg converted to miles in in fact 21.17. Still, it really depends on the OP's actual odometer reading. If he's well under 10K miles (and I suspect he is), 21mpg is quite normal. 34 would have been /exceptionally/ good, like "call the newspapers"-type exceptional. He won't see full mileage until at least 10K. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ Sorry TeGGer, but 9 km per liter is 34.06 km/gallon (notice km), and then you have to convert to miles: 34 km = 21.1 miles, and yes, it comes to 21.1 miles / gallon > Sorry TeGGer, but 9 km per liter is 34.06 km/gallon (notice km), and > then you have to convert to miles: 34 km = 21.1 miles, and yes, it > comes to 21.1 miles / gallon Right you are. Correction posted last night. But it rounds to 21.2, not 21.1. SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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