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Car Forum / Honda Cars / November 2005New battery on civic 1992 ?!
Hi , I'm trying to determine if my mechanic is ripping me off !? He says my car wont start if it's - 10 outside ?! It was -19 degres this morning ( with the windshield ) and my car start with no problem ! I went and got it tested at another shop ( Call me paranoid but as soon as they see a woman walk in they see Dollar bills ! ) It was over 14 volts at all times with the car running , I even pressed on the brakes to make sure reading was accurate as well as turned on all my defrosts , radio , and heat . the 2 nd dealer said I do not need a new battery . I'm confused now !? How can I know for sure if I need a new battery !? Please help me ! =) > Hi , I'm trying to determine if my mechanic is ripping me off It's a good bet he is. Bottom line, do-it-yourself. THE "I AIN'T GOT NO TEST STUFF" TEST To determine if your charging system is working ok, while the engine is running, pull a battery cable. If the engine continues to run, the charging system is ok. If that test is good, the battery is next. Easy test. Let it sit for two days. If the battery is dead after two days, the battery is bad and needs to be replaced. That's it! ;) nb > Hi , I'm trying to determine if my mechanic is ripping me off !? He says my > car wont start if it's - 10 outside ?! What evidence does he claim to have to support this claim in any way? > It was -19 degres this morning ( with > the windshield ) and my car start with no problem ! I went and got it tested > at another shop ( Call me paranoid but as soon as they see a woman walk in > they see Dollar bills ! ) It was over 14 volts at all times with the car > running , Great. That's what it should be. When the car is not running, a voltmeter should indicate 12 volts across the battery terminals. These are just basic checks. There are others. How old is the battery, anyway? If you got 4.5 years or more out of it, then you probably got your money's worth. If you're worried about being stranded somewhere, and the battery is at least this old, I'd replace it. Particularly if you did a few jumps on the car. Jumps also shorten the life of batteries. (Or it's running a battery down until it has insufficient energy to start the car that shortens its life.) Start paying attention to how readily the car starts. If one is attentive, one can detect just by the sounds whether the battery is near-death. It's best not to wait until the battery dies completely, because a dying battery may shorten the alternator's life. If you have a manual transmission and want to know how to start the car without the battery, for the short term, say so, and I or someone will give the steps for doing a "push start." > I even pressed on the brakes to make sure reading was accurate as > well as turned on all my defrosts , radio , and heat . the 2 nd dealer said I > do not need a new battery . I'm confused now !? How can I know for sure if I > need a new battery !? Please help me ! =) I do not know whether your Honda came equipped with a Honda battery or AC Delco battery. (My 91 Civic came from the Honda plant with an AC Delco). In either case, if your charging system turns out to be o.k., look for a bubble window at the top of battery near the red terminal. If it looks black when you look down, your battery probably needs to be replaced. If is it green, then your battery is o.k. Also, check whether the battery terminals are clean/tight. If you need a new battery, I would go with an AC Delco, as these are cheaper, and last about 7 years. > Hi , I'm trying to determine if my mechanic is ripping me off !? He says my > car wont start if it's - 10 outside ?! It was -19 degres this morning ( with [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Message posted via CarKB.com > http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/honda-cars/200511/1 ah1244 wrote: > If you need a new battery, I > would go with an AC Delco, as these are cheaper, and last about 7 > years. Are you sure about that? I thought you would have to pay considerably more to get a 7-year battery regardless of the make. Last winter I got a new Honda-branded "5-year" battery that was priced about the same as other brands. Does anybody know who actually makes Honda batteries if it isn't Honda themselves? The original battery that came with my 91 Civic was one called an AC Delco Freedom battery (maintenance free). That lasted until 1998 (60K miles) (basically the battery went dead after I stored the car in the open for one month). Replaced with same (cost me about $60 if I remember correctly). That is still in my car and still going strong this winter (now at 165K miles). I think one can buy a Honda battery with dealership/Honda coupons for about $50, but if that lasts just 4 years as others suggest, then I personnaly would stick with the AC Delco. No idea who makes it (GM?, Delphi? Johnson Controls?). > ah1244 wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > about the same as other brands. Does anybody know who actually makes > Honda batteries if it isn't Honda themselves? > The original battery that came with my 91 Civic was one called an AC > Delco Freedom battery (maintenance free). That lasted until 1998 (60K > miles) (basically the battery went dead after I stored the car in the > open for one month). Replaced with same (cost me about $60 if I > remember correctly). my 98 still has the original battery. when it dies, im just going to get one from costco for $30 or so. their batteries are made by johnson controls. If the battery is more than four years old I would replace it. It sure beats getting stranded in the cold. The problem is that as batteries age they will all the sudden die as the plates short out in one cell. I have had that happen a couple of times. Battery was very strong starting but one day I come out to start it and it is stone dead and would not take a charge. A battery could last seven years but that is really pushing it and almost any not bottom of the line battery will last four years for sure assuming the battery was not defective to start with or there is nor a problem with the car's electrical system overcharging the battery all the time. I bought a Wal-Mart battery for $40 and installed it myself. It has a 72 month pro rated warranty and a two year free replacement warranty. It is made by Exide. One reason other than price that I bought a Wal-Mart battery is because it had the manufacture date stamped on the side and I was able to get a very fresh one less than a month old. --- Steve > Hi , I'm trying to determine if my mechanic is ripping me off !? He says > my [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I > need a new battery !? Please help me ! =) Wow ! Great info guys ! Thank you so much ! I've had the battery foe over 4 years and my mechanic says the CCA amps are at 222 and should be at 410 . From all the info you guys have given me I think it's time to replace it . Beside winter in Ottawa are damn cold ! I don't want to take the chance of getting stuck in - 40 in january ! Thank you all so much for the information ! I will also check the stamp date on the side of the new battery to make sure it's a fresh one =) >If the battery is more than four years old I would replace it. It sure beats >getting stranded in the cold. The problem is that as batteries age they will [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> I >> need a new battery !? Please help me ! =) |
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