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Car Forum / Honda Cars / November 2005

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92 civic vx wont start

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stas2007 - 25 Nov 2005 07:01 GMT
it has gas. there is a spark, battery is new, when i turn the key it makes
the chugga chugga but never want to fire up. its cold outside. doesnt have
an oxygen sensor or intake. help email or w/e. ASAP
'Curly Q. Links' - 25 Nov 2005 15:10 GMT
> it has gas. there is a spark, battery is new, when i turn the key it makes
> the chugga chugga but never want to fire up. its cold outside. doesnt have
> an oxygen sensor or intake. help email or w/e. ASAP

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WHAT THE HECK DOES THIS MEAN: "doesn't have an oxygen sensor or
intake".??????

A little bit of explanation will go a long way to get you better
answers. Answer the five W's. Who, what, where, when, and, in this case
the best one WHY?

All the psychic are away for the holiday long weekend.

'Curly'
jim beam - 25 Nov 2005 16:27 GMT
>>it has gas. there is a spark, battery is new, when i turn the key it makes
>>the chugga chugga but never want to fire up. its cold outside. doesnt have
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> 'Curly'

you don't have to be psychic to figure out whether you want to respond
to an "ASAP" that can't ask the right questions!
Burt S. - 26 Nov 2005 15:05 GMT
> WHAT THE HECK DOES THIS MEAN: "doesn't have an oxygen sensor or
> intake".??????

He's right. The VX doesn't have an O2 sensor, it has the LAF which improves
overall efficiency by operating within a very broad air/fuel ratios range,
12:1 to 25:1

The other sensor stuck onto the intake is the intake air temp sensor. It
won't start without it.
stas2007 - 28 Nov 2005 02:18 GMT
"The other sensor stuck onto the intake is the intake air temp sensor. It
won't start without it."

my car is supposed to have a o2 sensor but its just missing it, i orderd
one its on its way. but what are u talking about the air temp sensor? what
is that? where can i get some pics to see what it look like. and if i just
get a cold air inake will it come with that? are u sure it wont start
because of it?
                 thanks
Elle - 28 Nov 2005 02:46 GMT
> "The other sensor stuck onto the intake is the intake air temp sensor. It
> won't start without it."
>
> my car is supposed to have a o2 sensor but its just missing it, i orderd
> one its on its way. but what are u talking about the air temp sensor? what
> is that? where can i get some pics to see what it look like.

It's located in the air intake manifold and also called the
"TA sensor." See item 15 (between items 18 and 23 on the
drawing) at

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.
jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=Civic&catcgry2=1992&catcgry3=3DR+V
X&catcgry4=KA4AT&catcgry5=INTAKE+MANIFOLD

> and if i just
> get a cold air inake will it come with that? are u sure it wont start
> because of it?

The TA sensor sends a signal to the engine control computer
that affects the fuel injection duration.

Seems to me its vital to proper operation. Dunno about
starting.

Dunno about this cold air intake. If you have a web site
describing it, please post it.
Burt S. - 28 Nov 2005 07:09 GMT
"Elle" <honda.lioness@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:rcuif.9793>
>The TA sensor sends a signal to the engine control computer
> that affects the fuel injection duration.

Pic link improved http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/3913/ta1hd.gif

> Seems to me its vital to proper operation. Dunno about
> starting.

If someone stole the intake, chances are that someone cut off the wire
to this sensor, most often it won't start if you do this. If the sensor is
not there, either get a new one or put a resistor in its place.
stas2007 - 25 Nov 2005 18:20 GMT
i got it from an auction and thats why its missing a few of these things..
does it need to have an o2 sensor for it to start?
any tips? what could be wrong
High Tech Misfit - 25 Nov 2005 20:33 GMT
> i got it from an auction and thats why its missing a few of these things..
> does it need to have an o2 sensor for it to start?
>  any tips? what could be wrong

The O2 doesn't affect starting, but you do need it to pass emissions tests.
Burt S. - 28 Nov 2005 15:37 GMT
> i got it from an auction and thats why its missing a few of these things..
> does it need to have an o2 sensor for it to start?
>  any tips? what could be wrong

Playing psychic is slowing your progress, so here's a few quiz: Did
you mean air intake or intake manifold that's missing? Did you
make sure that all your plugs are firing (use a timing light). Did
you clear the cylinder if they're flooded? Got good gas? Has stock
parts? How's compression?
 
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