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Car Forum / Honda Cars / December 200594 ACCORD MAIN RELAY LOCATION??? I CAN'T FIND IT...HELP!!!
i have a 94 accord that just likes to die and not start on me sometimes. i have narrowed my problem down to the main relay. and i have looked all over for the little thing and i cant find it. i have found a few sites, but none that cover my car. can someone please help me out and let me know where the part is and how to get it out... anything will help. thanks a lot If you're just replacing it, having the new one in hand so you know for what shape to look can be very helpful. It should be under the left side of the dash, to the left and above where your left knee is when you're driving. You'll probably need a flashlight. You'll have to get your head and shoulders into the footwell section, left side. It can be done. For a drawing of its location, try the 1991-93 Accord manual at http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html . Click on the Fuel sections, then the component location section. It's on the third page of drawings, on the right of the page. Not as helpful is the drawing of it at (see part #25) http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay. jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=Accord&catcgry2=1994&catcgry3=4DR+ DX&catcgry4=KA5MT&catcgry5=CONTROL+UNIT+%28CABIN%29 > i have a 94 accord that just likes to die and not start on me sometimes. i > have narrowed my problem down to the main relay. and i have looked all over > for the little thing and i cant find it. i have found a few sites, but > none that cover my car. can someone please help me out and let me know > where the part is and how to get it out... anything will help. thanks a > lot Better: http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/media/manuals/AccordManua l/400/6-216.pdf Should work for a 94 Accord, too. well i found it. i decided to get pissed and just rip out all the relays that i could see. it ended up bein on the right hand side of the steering column, wide in the open...not that hard to get to really. didnt take any tools or anything. thanks though. too bad it wasnt the problem...i was drivin it after i got it out and took the soldering gun to it. it died on me just a few blocks down the road. so now im thinkin its the igniter. guess im gonna rip the distributor apart tomorrow and get that taken care of, then see what happens with it. thanks again > well i found it. i decided to get pissed and just rip out all the relays > that i could see. it ended up bein on the right hand side of the steering [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > guess im gonna rip the distributor apart tomorrow and get that taken care > of, then see what happens with it. thanks again It sounds like it could be the igniter or the ignition switch. well...does anyone know of any DIY ways to fix the igniter or would i just have to buy a new one? im a broke college student, so im kinda pressed for cash. everything on the car has been done by me, so i have no problem with workin on it anymore. I've never heard of an igniter being fixed, apart from the wires on it coming loose and just needing to be re-attached. Mine needed a new wire harness at some point, but I bought a whole new distributor housing and that took care of the dilapidated harness. Honda igniters do fail pretty regularly. A life of 8+ years is a good long life for an igniter. Buy only an OEM one. If you want some online OEM parts sites that sell them, just ask. www.tegger.com/hondafaq has some advice on checking whether the igniter or the coil (or something else) is the problem. I'm surprised the main relay was on the right of the steering column... sorry about the bum steer. > well...does anyone know of any DIY ways to fix the igniter or would i just > have to buy a new one? im a broke college student, so im kinda pressed > for cash. everything on the car has been done by me, so i have no problem > with workin on it anymore. > It sounds like it could be the igniter or the ignition switch. I would vote for the ignition switch that also had to be replaced in my '94 Accord about 2 years ago and exhibited similar problems before that. Rudy are there any different syptoms between the ignition switch and the igniter? a little more info.... it tends to shut off more when im higher in the rpms, i dont really knwo if that means much its just somethign that i have realized. i still have all the power to everythign else when it dies out too... :-/ thanks again guys If you're still able to run the car, then it's probably not the igniter. Try this link for help separating the possible causes: http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#startrun Also, how old are your ignition wires, plugs, distributor cap and rotor? Gotta good air filter and fuel filter? > are there any different syptoms between the ignition switch and the > igniter? a little more info.... it tends to shut off more when im higher > in the rpms, i dont really knwo if that means much its just somethign that > i have realized. i still have all the power to everythign else when it > dies out too... :-/ thanks again guys well...even when the car dies and wont start again, the fuel pump still turns on when i turn the key. i can hear it for the first few seconds when i turn the key to the ON position. ill go through and check all my wires and plugs, but i doubt it is bc of those, i just chnaged them all a couple months ago. so now im leanin towards igniter or ignition switch... well ill restate whats goin on and give some more details... the car randomly dies when im driving down the road with no warning at all. the check engine light and the battery and oil light all turn on, just like right before turning the car on. then when i stop the car and try to start it up, it jsut cranks. if i turn the key off then back on, i can hear the fuel pump prime, so its not the main relay. but then the car will still nto always start. i still haev power to everythign when the car dies... radio, lights, heater, everythgin is still on except the engine. then if i let the car sit for a while, like 10 minuets or so, it starts up again and will drive for a little bit. the length that it drives when it starts again seems to depend on how long i let it sit. thats abotu all i can think of now....i really am lost. any help is gettin closer to the prob. thanks guys On 12/8/05 12:22 AM, in article 746b4a938088be02075e27a49e2f2161@localhost.talkaboutautos.com, > well...even when the car dies and wont start again, the fuel pump still > turns on when i turn the key. i can hear it for the first few seconds [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > thats abotu all i can think of now....i really am lost. any help is > gettin closer to the prob. thanks guys that set of symptoms is part and parcel of a failing ignition switch. They overheat and break contact. Once it cools off it will work again for a while. The cycle will get shorter and shorter until it will only run for a few seconds at a time. It is screwed to the back of the key cylinder with two tiny phillips screws. The cable on in plugs in near the fuse box. Take it off & pop it open. I'll bet you find burned contacts. The part is about $30 from the dealer. You chould be able to change it yourself in about 15 minutes. Take a look at http://www.visualimpressions.ca/switch/ > well...even when the car dies and wont start again, the fuel pump > still turns on when i turn the key. i can hear it for the first few [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > thats abotu all i can think of now....i really am lost. any help is > gettin closer to the prob. thanks guys Have a look at www.gcw.org.uk/rover.htm which although it is Rover, uses the Honda engine. Your symptom sounds like a dirty distributor cap on the inside or outside. Clean it up in the kitchen sink with washing up liquid and dry off in the airing cupboard. Refit and test. HTH  SignatureGraham W http://www.gcw.org.uk/ PGM-FI page updated, Graphics Tutorial WIMBORNE http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex Dorset UK Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter. >> well...even when the car dies and wont start again, the fuel pump >> still turns on when i turn the key. i can hear it for the first few [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cap on the inside or outside. Clean it up in the kitchen sink with > washing up liquid and dry off in the airing cupboard. Refit and test. Sorry that URL should be http://www.gcw.org.uk/rover/igniter.htm SignatureGraham W http://www.gcw.org.uk/ PGM-FI page updated, Graphics Tutorial WIMBORNE http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex Dorset UK Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter. > Better: > http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/media/manuals/AccordManua > l/400/6-216.pdf > > Should work for a 94 Accord, too. Nice -- thanks! For everyone here: If you backspace to AccordManual, you'll get a whole load of different manuals. For hahas, I tried this and it works too, getting a bunch of civic manuals. http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/media/manuals/CivicManual/ Remco well i finally got the car fixed. i decided to drop the $30 that a local shop wanted to diagnose the problem. it ended up bein the igniter. the guy at the shop told me to buy an entire new distributor bc the O-ring was kinda bad. but that would have ran me about 350 so i called a local wrecking yard and got one for $70. all is well now. thanks for the help guys. |
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