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notbob - 15 Dec 2005 08:33 GMT
I've found Honda OEM inserts to be superior to most aftermarket
offeings.  Anyone have a viable alternative?

nb
mrdancer - 15 Dec 2005 12:43 GMT
> I've found Honda OEM inserts to be superior to most aftermarket
> offeings.  Anyone have a viable alternative?

You might try silicon wiper blades, e.g. - www.ultrasilblade.com
E Meyer - 15 Dec 2005 16:14 GMT
On 12/15/05 2:33 AM, in article u5OdncTnRv_DtzzeRVn-ow@comcast.com, "notbob"

> I've found Honda OEM inserts to be superior to most aftermarket
> offeings.  Anyone have a viable alternative?
>
> nb

I've tried most of the aftermarket blades at one time or another and came to
the same conclusion.  The OEM inserts last twice as long as any of the
others on my cars.  
Eye Indo - 15 Dec 2005 19:09 GMT
While on the subject of wiperblades.  Does anyone know how to eliminate that
awful "juddering" of the wiperblades after a while of use ?  It goes away if
I "add" liquid to the glass by using my wiperwasher.
I have cleaned the glass as good as I can and the wiper blades are only
about two months old.
They do not feel brittle, and the "angle" on how the blades sit on the glass
is square.
TIA

> On 12/15/05 2:33 AM, in article u5OdncTnRv_DtzzeRVn-ow@comcast.com,
> "notbob"
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> the same conclusion.  The OEM inserts last twice as long as any of the
> others on my cars.
jim beam - 16 Dec 2005 03:35 GMT
> While on the subject of wiperblades.  Does anyone know how to eliminate that
> awful "juddering" of the wiperblades after a while of use ?

while driving?  the oem blade holder is shaped to avoid wind lift-off at
speed and the problem you describe.

>  It goes away if
> I "add" liquid to the glass by using my wiperwasher.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>the same conclusion.  The OEM inserts last twice as long as any of the
>>others on my cars.
Eye Indo - 16 Dec 2005 05:48 GMT
> while driving?  the oem blade holder is shaped to avoid wind lift-off at
> speed and the problem you describe.

While driving and while parked.
When the blades are new, I have no problems, or when it rains hard enough,
i.e. sufficient liquid on the glass.  If I speed up the blades, less judder.
BTW, the judder occurs only in one direction.
One thing that I wonder about.  I have the car washed in a carwash where
they "hotwax" the car.
May be that is what is causing the problem, although I do clean the glass as
good as possible.
E Meyer - 16 Dec 2005 20:35 GMT
I've just had this experience with my daughter's '96 I30 (I know its a
Nissan, not a Honda, but the experience seems to be the same).  It never had
the problem as long as we were using the original OEM blade holders.  We put
new rain-x blades on it, the whole thing - holders and inserts, because the
OEM blade holders had all the paint weathered off and I was too lazy to
repaint them.  After a couple of months it started the "judder".  They look
exactly like the oem, but apparently they are not.  After putting the
original holders back on it (still using the Rain-X inserts) the problem
went away.

So if you still have your original wiper blade holders in a corner
somewhere, try switching back.

On 12/15/05 1:09 PM, in article
lbjof.290560$zb5.195306@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net, "Eye Indo"
<amerindo@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> While on the subject of wiperblades.  Does anyone know how to eliminate that
> awful "juddering" of the wiperblades after a while of use ?  It goes away if
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> the same conclusion.  The OEM inserts last twice as long as any of the
>> others on my cars.
SoCalMike - 16 Dec 2005 23:00 GMT
> So if you still have your original wiper blade holders in a corner
> somewhere, try switching back.

yup... OEM is good. if it wasnt, thered be a lot of "nuisance returns"
for juddering, skipping, squeaking back to the dealers. im on my second
set of inserts in 8 years.

once i got over the idea of spending $11 (dealer price) on 2 little
rubber strips, replacing was easy, and they work as new.
Eye Indo - 17 Dec 2005 02:33 GMT
When you speak of "original wiper blade holders", do you mean the whole
thing minus the rubber parts ?
When I replace wiper blades, I get this package that has the rubber inserts,
and the metal part that just hooks up to the metal thingy (What is that
thing called anyway) that holds the stuff I replace.
If that is the problem, than I will buy another set from the dealer. and
make sure that I get OEM stuff.

> So if you still have your original wiper blade holders in a corner
> somewhere, try switching back.
Dave L - 17 Dec 2005 03:23 GMT
Think that's what he meant.  I've used the aftermarket blades/inserts before
and they work.  Just not as well as the OEM Honda blades and inserts.  Then
again my brother can't tell the difference on his car but I think I'm
pickier.  The OEM works and lasts longer.  If you've got a concern about the
cost from your local dealership you can order online.  Save a few bucks.

-Dave

> When you speak of "original wiper blade holders", do you mean the whole
> thing minus the rubber parts ?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> So if you still have your original wiper blade holders in a corner
>> somewhere, try switching back.
E Meyer - 17 Dec 2005 04:39 GMT
On 12/16/05 8:33 PM, in article
6OKof.298957$zb5.281666@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net, "Eye Indo"
<amerindo@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> When you speak of "original wiper blade holders", do you mean the whole
> thing minus the rubber parts ?

Yes. The inserts are just the rubber.  When I say blade holders, I mean the
metal piece that the rubber slides into than then snaps onto the arm.  They
always come with new rubber, but you can just replace the rubber and keep
the metal.  That¹s what the dealer sells.

> When I replace wiper blades, I get this package that has the rubber inserts,
> and the metal part that just hooks up to the metal thingy (What is that
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> So if you still have your original wiper blade holders in a corner
>> somewhere, try switching back.
Eye Indo - 18 Dec 2005 02:46 GMT
Whoa....
Found the old blades (somewhere in a corner).
Stuck the "newer" insert in there.
Helloooo...  No more judder.
Looked into it further.
Found that there was a difference in mounting between the original ones and
the replacement ones.  The original blade assemblies, allow more "wiggling",
so the rubber blade ALWAYS has the capability to lay flatter against the
glass.  The replacement blade assemblies, only allowed "laying flat" in one
direction.
I guess, mystery solved.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

>>> So if you still have your original wiper blade holders in a corner
>>> somewhere, try switching back.
Graham W - 18 Dec 2005 12:55 GMT
>>>> So if you still have your original wiper blade holders in a corner
>>>> somewhere, try switching back.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions.

Thanks for reporting back.

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Milleron - 16 Dec 2005 01:10 GMT
>On 12/15/05 2:33 AM, in article u5OdncTnRv_DtzzeRVn-ow@comcast.com, "notbob"
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>the same conclusion.  The OEM inserts last twice as long as any of the
>others on my cars.  

Does anyone know of a source of winter blades for late-model Accords.
It seems that no one makes a 26" winter blade for the driver's side.

Ron
SadaYama - 16 Dec 2005 02:40 GMT
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notbob

I've found Honda OEM inserts to be superior to most aftermarket
offeings.  Anyone have a viable alternative?

nb

I tried the WalMart equivalent for Accord refills, and paid $1.22 for a
pair (they come in pairs of 2-sets for $2.44) Only problem is they are
slightly wider, so I used a nose-plier to slightly widen the hold. I've
been using them for the last 6-months and I've no complaints, so far.
Check it out.
Reg Martin - 16 Dec 2005 06:48 GMT
How do you get em off a 98 Accord?  I see a button but have been trying
with not much luck.
SadaYama - 16 Dec 2005 16:00 GMT
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Reg Martin
Dec 16, 1:48 am

How do you get em off a 98 Accord?  I see a button but have been trying

with not much luck.
***********************

Read the owner's manual. It tells you exactly how to do it.
jim beam - 16 Dec 2005 03:33 GMT
> I've found Honda OEM inserts to be superior to most aftermarket
> offeings.  Anyone have a viable alternative?
>
> nb

no.  oem are undoubtedly the best.  i've tried most aftermarkets.
High Tech Misfit - 16 Dec 2005 03:42 GMT
> no.  oem are undoubtedly the best.  i've tried most aftermarkets.

As have I.  I even tried Bosch Micro-edge blades which were highly rated,
and yet priced about the same as OEM blades.  The Bosch blades worked no
better than the cheap blades from Walmart and Canadian Tire.

Of course, I haven't tried Canadian Tire's Motomaster Reflex blades which
are extremely low profile--and priced about the same as OEM blades.
 
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