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Car Forum / Honda Cars / December 2005Anybody taken a close look at the new Civic? Whadayathink?
Apparently it's all new this year. Looks kinda interesting. I wonder how the Civic would compare to my 94 Accord LX. It looks like it's almost as big, but I wonder about ride and road noise. > Apparently it's all new this year. Looks kinda interesting. > > I wonder how the Civic would compare to my 94 Accord LX. It looks > like it's almost as big, but I wonder about ride and road noise. I visited the local Honda dealership and took a look at them but did not test drive any of them. There is a new sports model of the Civic that should be at the local dealerships very soon. That's the one that everybody wants to buy. I have a 99 Accord EX and it's running great so don't plan on buying any new car for many years. You should visit the local dealership and pick up a free brochure. I had to ask for a brochure since they now keep them locked up. I asked for the reason and was told that people were taking handfulls of them instead of just one. They now make sure that each customer gets only one copy. Most customers don't get any copies since it's a hassle to ask for one. Jason  SignatureNEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > > Apparently it's all new this year. Looks kinda interesting. > > > > I wonder how the Civic would compare to my 94 Accord LX. It looks > > like it's almost as big, but I wonder about ride and road noise. In 2003, there was a big difference in noise level between the standard Civics and the Civic Hybrid. I looked at the Accord, didn't drive one. I didn't like what I felt was a cramped interior design. It's bigger, but doesn't feel like it to me. I would expect the 2006 Civic to be a nicer car than an 89 Accord, the only year I've driven. My 2003 Civic is a nicer ride and quieter than my 91 Integra. > You should visit the local dealership and pick up a free brochure. You can order one at autombiles.honda.com. I received my brochure, and I don't recall getting any other junk. You can download a pdf or have one mailed to you. Signature--- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 Was invited too test drive the new civic!!! What a beauty! The interior does have a few blind spots, but the change for Honda will well be rewarded. I drove the two door. I am looking at a 4 door, but waiting to drive the acura new version CSX. >> Apparently it's all new this year. Looks kinda interesting. >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Most customers don't get any copies since it's a hassle to ask for one. >Jason I test drove a 2dr EX, 5 spd, along with an Accord. I loved it. Currently, I drive a 2001 Integra, and the 2006 civic was quieter and drove similar. I like the dash - with the digital speedometer and analog tach. The steering wheel felt smaller than on the Accord, but it felt better in my hands. I had settled on the Accord, only because it is a bit nicer car, felt more solidly built, and I could get factory leather. But I wrestled with that decision. The Accord is definately a more boring car, and since I tend to go around the curves a bit fast, the Civic just makes for more fun driving. Since I'm having a hard time finding a manual transmission Accord, I'm looking at the Civic again - along with an Acura TSX ($12k price difference). > Apparently it's all new this year. Looks kinda interesting. > I wonder how the Civic would compare to my 94 Accord LX. It looks > like it's almost as big, but I wonder about ride and road noise. See my review posted earlier here. I'd say wait for the Fit. The lack of a Civic hatchback is annoying - hopefully the Fit will remedy that situation. Other than that - not-bad interior but cramped-a.s underhood space. Honda has usually been ok as far as maintenance (at least the 90s Civics were) but this one looks to be a bugger to work on with all that crap tucked under the "shelf" made by the windshield. -Andrew >> Apparently it's all new this year. Looks kinda interesting. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Civics were) but this one looks to be a bugger to work on with all that > crap tucked under the "shelf" made by the windshield. shouldnt be much to work on. does it still use a timing belt? other than that, plugs and filters shouldnt be harder than normal. > shouldnt be much to work on. does it still use a timing belt? other than > that, plugs and filters shouldnt be harder than normal. My concern is the electronic throttle body (throttle by wire). Electronic throttle bodies are known for failing in other makes of cars and Honda is new to the game. It looks damned near inaccessible without removing the motor. Same goes for the power steering pump and possibly another accessory driven by the serp belt. Speaking of which, changing that belt might be a bear. Yes, I know that for anything but "plugs 'n filters" the car should be taken to an authorized dealer... However, if a dealer spends more time fixing it, I'll be paying more to get it fixed. Plus, I want to be able to do my own work and be damned what the company's lawyers^W liars say about it. At least it doesn't have any of those butt-ugly plastic shields over the engine area like some VWs and Audis have (those make the engine look like a cheap lawnmower motor IMHO). -Andrew >> shouldnt be much to work on. does it still use a timing belt? other than >> that, plugs and filters shouldnt be harder than normal. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > accessory driven by the serp belt. Speaking of which, changing that belt > might be a bear. If I'm not mistaken, the power steering is electronic also. Honda really isn't new to "electronic drive by wire". Several other Honda/Acura models use --- Accord, Pilot, Odyssey, Civic, RL, TL, TSX, and MDX. Only the RSX is currently without it since the model is due to be dropped. The belts are supposed to be replaced at 100,000 miles. > Yes, I know that for anything but "plugs 'n filters" the car should be > taken to an authorized dealer... However, if a dealer spends more time [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -Andrew If you want them to run greener and cleaner, less accessibility will be the price. BTW, www.honda.com does have a "coming soon" notice about the Fit. I doubt that there will be better accessibility on it. With a 1500 cc engine and lighter weight, the mileage and performance should be more than adequate. SignatureKent Finnell From the Music City USA > If I'm not mistaken, the power steering is electronic also. Honda really > isn't new to "electronic drive by wire". Several other Honda/Acura models Nope, power steering is hydraulic. There's a belt-driven pump and fluid reservoir. Only the hybrid and Si get the electric power steering. BTW, electric power steering isn't drive-by-wire - there's still a mechanical connection between the road wheels and steering wheel. If anything, it'll be easier to drive the car if the PS goes out since you won't need to be pushing hydraulic fluid around. > is currently without it since the model is due to be dropped. The belts are > supposed to be replaced at 100,000 miles. Or x years, I suspect. Rubber dry rots, especially in hot climates or in polluted urban air. > If you want them to run greener and cleaner, less accessibility will be the > price. I'd gladly sacrifice an MPG or 3 for a car that can be fixed easily when it needs to be. A throwaway product doesn't do anything good for the environment since it costs quite a bit of energy to build a car in the first place. > BTW, www.honda.com does have a "coming soon" notice about the Fit. I doubt > that there will be better accessibility on it. With a 1500 cc engine and > lighter weight, the mileage and performance should be more than adequate. I'm keeping my 30mpg Volvo then - when that wears out (if ever :-P) I'll get a 90s Civic, Subaru wagon, or a newer RWD Volvo (740 or 940). -Andrew Motor Trend looked at it and just picked it as the 2006 Car Of The Year from 28 contenders. January 2006 edition, page 82, if your interested in reading the article. > Motor Trend looked at it and just picked it as the 2006 Car Of The Year > from 28 contenders. January 2006 edition, page 82, if your interested in > reading the article. Dubious honor. In the past, it's gone to the Dodge Omni and Renault Alliance... -Andrew Peabody <waybackKILLSPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda: > Apparently it's all new this year. Looks kinda interesting. > > I wonder how the Civic would compare to my 94 Accord LX. It looks > like it's almost as big, but I wonder about ride and road noise. I LOVE MY NEW CIVIC! SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? Brandy Alexandre <brandyalx@kittylittercomcast.net> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda: > Peabody <waybackKILLSPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote in > rec.autos.makers.honda: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I LOVE MY NEW CIVIC! I LOVE MY NEW CIVIC!!! SignatureBrandy Alexandre® http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? |
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