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2004 Accord EX Sedan Tire ?

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MinnPinn - 17 Jan 2006 13:13 GMT
Hey All,
I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
Currently the OEM tire is the Michelin Energy MXV4 in a V rating.  Is the
V-rated tire required or can it e stepped down to a H rated tire with little
or no loss of handling, safety, etc?
MLD - 17 Jan 2006 17:14 GMT
> Hey All,
> I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
> Currently the OEM tire is the Michelin Energy MXV4 in a V rating.  Is the
> V-rated tire required or can it e stepped down to a H rated tire with little
> or no loss of handling, safety, etc?

Why don't you ask the tire distributer?  Would you bank on what you read
here?
MinnPinn - 17 Jan 2006 21:12 GMT
Not, really, but just looking for opinions only.

>> Hey All,
>> I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Why don't you ask the tire distributer?  Would you bank on what you read
> here?
Grahame - 18 Jan 2006 23:44 GMT
And WHY would you bank on what the tire distributor recommends?

> > Hey All,
> > I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Why don't you ask the tire distributer?  Would you bank on what you read
> here?
John Horner - 20 Jan 2006 18:04 GMT
>>Hey All,
>>I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Why don't you ask the tire distributer?  Would you bank on what you read
> here?

Like you are going to get accurate information from a tire
salesperson/phone rep .....
MinnPinn - 04 Mar 2006 17:11 GMT
I got a set of H-Rated Kuhmo HP4's  they do the job and are quiet too.  And
the best part is, they cost less than half the price of the OEM MXV4.

>> Hey All,
>> I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Why don't you ask the tire distributer?  Would you bank on what you read
> here?
Dr Nick - 17 Jan 2006 21:00 GMT
> Hey All,
> I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
> Currently the OEM tire is the Michelin Energy MXV4 in a V rating.  Is the
> V-rated tire required or can it e stepped down to a H rated tire with
> little or no loss of handling, safety, etc?

the V rating is a speed rating, also, typically V rated tires will wear
faster than an H rated tire. If your not performance driving at high speeds,
you probably won't notice a difference.
TP - 18 Jan 2006 03:19 GMT
>>Hey All,
>>I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> faster than an H rated tire. If your not performance driving at high speeds,
> you probably won't notice a difference.

==============
A tire dealer once told me not to mix speed ratings on tires. If
I have "V rating on the rear and  H rating in front it could
cause an under steer feel.   I never noticed any difference.
2 my cents...
TP
High Tech Misfit - 17 Jan 2006 22:18 GMT
> Hey All,
> I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
> Currently the OEM tire is the Michelin Energy MXV4 in a V rating.  Is the
> V-rated tire required or can it e stepped down to a H rated tire with little
> or no loss of handling, safety, etc?

Check the sticker inside the driver's door jamb to see what Honda
recommends as the minimum speed rating.
E Meyer - 18 Jan 2006 14:42 GMT
On 1/17/06 4:18 PM, in article
pan.2006.01.17.22.18.35.717648@hightech.misfit, "High Tech Misfit"
<me@privacy.net> wrote:

>> Hey All,
>> I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Check the sticker inside the driver's door jamb to see what Honda
> recommends as the minimum speed rating.

2000 TL is theoretically capable of 146 MPH, hence V rated tires are
recommended for it.
E Meyer - 18 Jan 2006 14:45 GMT
On 1/18/06 8:42 AM, in article BFF3B000.EC64D%epmeyer50@msn.com, "E Meyer"
<epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote:

> On 1/17/06 4:18 PM, in article
> pan.2006.01.17.22.18.35.717648@hightech.misfit, "High Tech Misfit"
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> 2000 TL is theoretically capable of 146 MPH, hence V rated tires are
> recommended for it.

Oops!  I thought I was replying to a different thread.  Never mind....
bunny - 18 Jan 2006 17:31 GMT
> On 1/18/06 8:42 AM, in article BFF3B000.EC64D%epmeyer50@msn.com, "E Meyer"
> <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> >
> Oops!  I thought I was replying to a different thread.  Never mind....

I put Michelin MXV4 H-rated tires on my 93 Accord EX when the mileage
reached 100K.  Those tires are good; and they lasted for 100K mileage.

HWL
dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com - 18 Jan 2006 12:22 GMT
MinnPinn wrote "Hey All,
I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
Currently the OEM tire is the Michelin Energy MXV4 in a V rating.  Is
the
V-rated tire required or can it e stepped down to a H rated tire with
little
or no loss of handling, safety, etc? "

You probably already know that buying 4 new tires will be safer. You
can not predict that any V-rated tire will perform better than any
H-rated tire so mixing will be something of a crap shoot. So how much
money is your life worth? You bought the "EX" so claims of poverty
won't fly.
Whatever you buy, make sure that the REAR tires have at least as much,
if not more, traction than the front tires. Under no circumstances do
you want the back end to break loose (oversteer).
See www.tirerack.com survey results for tire ratings.
The OEM tires are not very good so you will probably not want to keep
them on the rear.
I replaced Michelin Energy tires (all 4) with Goodyear's Assurance
ComforTreds on my daughter's Accord and she has been happy with them,
esp. the highway ride.
MinnPinn - 18 Jan 2006 12:55 GMT
I didn't want to do any mixing, I was thinking of just buying a set of 4 in
an H Rating.  I checked tirerack.com and the minimum is an H.  The 2 tire in
the back are nearly new, but I don't want to buy Michelins.  For the money,
I think I could do better as the Michelins have not impressed me much.  I
was thinking of the Goodyear Comfortred as well, it looks like a smooth
tire.  Thanks again for the feedback.
> MinnPinn wrote "Hey All,
> I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> ComforTreds on my daughter's Accord and she has been happy with them,
> esp. the highway ride.
SoCalMike - 19 Jan 2006 01:24 GMT
> money is your life worth? You bought the "EX" so claims of poverty
> won't fly.

youve never seen poor people driving fancy cars before? escalades
pulling up to the pump to get $5 worth of gas at a time?
Michael Pardee - 19 Jan 2006 12:29 GMT
>> money is your life worth? You bought the "EX" so claims of poverty
>> won't fly.
>
> youve never seen poor people driving fancy cars before? escalades pulling
> up to the pump to get $5 worth of gas at a time?

They had money before they bought the car? :-)

Mike
MinnPinn - 19 Jan 2006 12:48 GMT
I totally agree.

>>> money is your life worth? You bought the "EX" so claims of poverty
>>> won't fly.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Mike
jmattis@attglobal.net - 18 Jan 2006 21:12 GMT
> Hey All,
> I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
> Currently the OEM tire is the Michelin Energy MXV4 in a V rating.  Is the
> V-rated tire required or can it e stepped down to a H rated tire with little
> or no loss of handling, safety, etc?

H is excellent for US driving conditions.  These ratings are
specifically for speed and relate to the car manufacturer's liability
concerns.  The V may have stiffer sidewalls (but not necessarily; the
Yokohama dB S2 is V, but is softer than a typical H).
John Horner - 20 Jan 2006 18:10 GMT
> Hey All,
> I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.
> Currently the OEM tire is the Michelin Energy MXV4 in a V rating.  Is the
> V-rated tire required or can it e stepped down to a H rated tire with little
> or no loss of handling, safety, etc?

Personally I like to use the same tire on all four locations, which is
why I regularly rotate tires in order to get them to wear out at the
same time.  If you are only going to replace two tires, put the MXV4s on
there.

I have had some bad experiences when I put different tires front and
rear.  Sometimes it works out ok, sometimes not.

If you replace all four, then there are many alternatives which are
quality tires at less than MXV4 prices.  No, there is no good reason in
the US why you couldn't step down to an appropriate H rated tire.

I recently replaced all four tires on my '03 Accord with Yokohama Avid
H4S tires and am very happy with the choice.  Last week I made a 1000
mile trip, over 300 miles of which was on winding secondary roads
through the mountains of Northern California in the rain.  The H4S tires
performed flawlessly.  My only complaint is that they are slighly
noisier than the MXV4 OEM tires, but the improved wet grip makes this an
excellent tradeoff for me.   Also, these tires were 40% less expensive
to purchase than new Michelins and they carry an AA traction rating,
which is rather rare.

John
Timothy J. Lee - 23 Jan 2006 18:00 GMT
>I have an 04 Accord EX Sedan and it needs 2 new tires in the front.

For the next set of tires, you may want to rotate the tires so that
they all wear evenly, maximizing tire life and avoiding odd handling
characteristics that may occur if tires at one end are worn down much
more than tires at the other end.

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