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Car Forum / Honda Cars / January 2006

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At Fault Collision: Insurance Q

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klara - 25 Jan 2006 22:41 GMT
Had a fenderbender last night, hit car in front. :(
This is my 1st at fault collision ever.
Deductible is $1000.

http://static.flickr.com/22/91165845_3eb2555991.jpg

Got 2 estimates $1900 and $2800, they involve different level of work.

1) Should I go thru insurance and make claim or pay the whole thing
myself ?
2) If go thru insurance should I try to find the best estimate AS IF
I'm paying it myself or go for the most complete work (e.g $2800
includes replacing the fender piece & more labor)

Very much a n00b at this...
I'm in USA
thanks
Acura TSX 2004
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 26 Jan 2006 00:17 GMT
> 1) Should I go thru insurance and make claim or pay the whole thing
> myself ?

Pay it yourself.  Insurance is for catastrophes that you can't pay, not
for every niggling thing.
SoCalMike - 26 Jan 2006 01:20 GMT
> Had a fenderbender last night, hit car in front. :(
> This is my 1st at fault collision ever.
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> I'm paying it myself or go for the most complete work (e.g $2800
> includes replacing the fender piece & more labor)

if it were ME, id slap a bumper skin on there and call it a day. the
little crease in the fender isnt worth worrying about.
Alex Rodriguez - 26 Jan 2006 19:30 GMT
>if it were ME, id slap a bumper skin on there and call it a day. the
>little crease in the fender isnt worth worrying about.

I'm with you, but I would also make sure the bumpter structure under the cover
is still ok.  
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Alex
SoCalMike - 27 Jan 2006 02:16 GMT
>> if it were ME, id slap a bumper skin on there and call it a day. the
>> little crease in the fender isnt worth worrying about.
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> ------------
> Alex

definately. might nead to buy a new piece of styrofoam, but the beam
underneath all that should be unscathed. if it wasnt, the bags probably
woulda popped.
Art - 26 Jan 2006 03:43 GMT
Were both cars damaged?  If both are relatively cheap fixes, pay for them
yourself but you still have to inform your insurance company in case guy you
hit suddenly feels severe pain.

> Had a fenderbender last night, hit car in front. :(
> This is my 1st at fault collision ever.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> thanks
> Acura TSX 2004
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 26 Jan 2006 12:05 GMT
> If both are relatively cheap fixes, pay for them
> yourself but you still have to inform your insurance company in case guy you
> hit suddenly feels severe pain.

no, you don't have to inform your insurance company at all.

If he suddenly feels severe pain, *maybe* that's when you subrogate that
claim to your insurance company.

But if you do it right, and simply pay out of pocket, you do it like the
insurance company does--with a waiver.  By accepting your payment, the
other party signs off that the payment covers all damages for this
accident, and he can't come back for anything else.

If he wants the money, he takes it.  If he thinks something else is
wrong, he doesn't.  Maybe then you subrogate the other party's claim to
your insurance company.

Y'all are making way, way too much of all this and what insurance is
about.  The insurance company need not be involved at all.
Art - 26 Jan 2006 19:22 GMT
His insurance contract probably says that if they are not informed within a
reasonable time they are not responsible for defending him or paying
damages.  Even if the other guy signs a waiver, he could still turn around
and sue him and that is likely to cost  $10k or more even if the court holds
that the waiver is valid.  Without the insurance company defending him he
would have to pay out of pocket for his lawyer.

>> If both are relatively cheap fixes, pay for them
>> yourself but you still have to inform your insurance company in case guy
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> Y'all are making way, way too much of all this and what insurance is
> about.  The insurance company need not be involved at all.
jmattis@attglobal.net - 26 Jan 2006 20:14 GMT
> Y'all are making way, way too much of all this and what insurance is
> about.  The insurance company need not be involved at all.

Umm....   Wouldn't take advice from someone misusing the word
"subrogation."

My wife got tapped several months ago from behind.  After chiropractic,
pain, lost work, and $1,600 in repairs to her MDX, the total outlay
from the other driver was about $8,000.

Got $8,000.00??    The sky is the limit on this type of claim.  Soft
tissue injury can result in endless treatment and claims.
dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com - 26 Jan 2006 11:55 GMT
> Had a fenderbender last night, hit car in front. :(

snip

If the car you hit will be filing a claim against your insurance, you
may as well file a claim and have them pay to repair you car as well.
Ask your insurance agent but I don't think your insurance company will
treat you any differently if they have to pay out for repairs
regardless of who they have to pay. If you pay to fix both cars your
insurance company wouldn't know the accident occurred.

Some insurance companies will forgive the first accident if you are a
long-time policy holder with no or few claims.
pars - 26 Jan 2006 16:00 GMT
I don't know about the other car, but judging from the amount of damage
on your TSX, your repair quotes
seems astronomical. In the case of my 98 Civic Hatch, it would cost me
$250 to replace the front bumper
including a matching coat of paint. My body shop guy is actually
offering me $150 to replace my front bumper because
he has a spare bumper lying around and is willing to give it to me for
free. In Toronto, there seems to be several manufactors
who are producing spare parts for older Civics, which means big savings
at the body shop and small down time (assuming
it's not an insurance job)

If the car that got hit is going through insurance, you're still going
to get a claim against yourself. Also, insurance company
don't like it when you don't report an accident, especially when third
party is making a claim against you. Reason being, other
party can esculate the claim and you didn't provide proof to disclaim.
Also, some of insurance company here in Toronto/Canada
will give you a grace on your first accident and not raise your
premium.

Pars
 
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