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Car Forum / Honda Cars / February 2006'91 Honda Accord LX not starting
Hi, I have a 91 accord lx with about 165k miles on it. It's been driving fine for the year I've had it, until this weekend. I drove it for 100 miles in very cold weather and it was fine. Two mornings later, I started the car to warm it up. Ten mins pass and I go outside, vehicle is dead after having started fine. All the dash lights were on, but when I turned the key, nothing. No clicks, no sounds of turning over. We let it sit for a while, put some isopropyl into the gas tank thinking maybe the fuel lines were frozen, but still nothing. All the fuses have been checked, fluids, etc. We don't know what to do with it. I have acess to people with some auto knowledge, but they can't figure it out either. Alternator/battery both perfect. I wanted to see if anyone on here might have an inkling as to what it could be. I'm trying hard to get this taken care of without bringing it into a shop, because of minimal funds. Thanks. > Hi, I have a 91 accord lx with about 165k miles on it. It's been > driving fine for the year I've had it, until this weekend. I drove it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > but when I turned the key, nothing. No clicks, no sounds of turning > over. <snip> Turn on the dome light. Now turn the key to START. What happens to the dome light?  SignatureTeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ Nothing happens to the dome light. It doesn't dim or anything.... Can you measure the battery voltage and report back? What did you do to determine that the battery and alternator are perfect? Check battery connections while out there. Clean with baking soda and water. Make sure connecting bolts are snug. Anything under 12 volts means the battery is drained, for one. What caused it to drain is another matter. Hondas generally don't need to sit more than a minute even in extreme cold. > Hi, I have a 91 accord lx with about 165k miles on it. It's been > driving fine for the year I've had it, until this weekend. I drove it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > hard to get this taken care of without bringing it into a shop, because > of minimal funds. Thanks. Well, I can't check the voltage at the moment because the vehicle is in the garage of my BF's house. However, the Battery is brand new, all the connections clean and snug. I recently had my vehicle at my mechanic's when I thought the alternator had gone. He tested the new one put in there, so we know that's not the problem. He tested to make sure nothing was draining the battery. It's just odd that this would happen all of a sudden, when the vehicle was running perfectly before.... I hear you, but the symptoms sound too much like a dead battery. I'd get a multimeter out there and check the voltage on it a.s.a.p. Clean and snug up terminal connections, too. Or try a jumpstart. Then of course more troubleshooting is needed, since you say the battery is new. Could you clarify: Is the alternator also new? If not, then we may have something more to pursue... > Well, I can't check the voltage at the moment because the vehicle is in > the garage of my BF's house. However, the Battery is brand new, all the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > nothing was draining the battery. It's just odd that this would happen > all of a sudden, when the vehicle was running perfectly before.... We did try jump starting it, and that didn't work either. All the lights work fine, so I think the battery is ok. The alternator isn't brand new, but it was just tested....maybe 10 days ago as working perfectly. Before, when my old battery would die on me, when trying to start the car there would be at least some clicking noises. But now, when I go to turn the key, the radio and dash lights all turn on, but the engine doesn't make a sound.... The lights and radio working don't prove that the battery is putting out the 12+ volts needed to start the car, but since you tried a jumpstart, that does suggest it's not the battery. I'd be digging here next: http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/startproblems.html#click-click1 Keep checking back. Plenty of regulars here with lots of experience. > We did try jump starting it, and that didn't work either. All the > lights work fine, so I think the battery is ok. The alternator isn't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > when I go to turn the key, the radio and dash lights all turn on, but > the engine doesn't make a sound.... > The lights and radio working don't prove that the battery is putting out the > 12+ volts needed to start the car, but since you tried a jumpstart, that > does suggest it's not the battery. and the fact the lights didnt even dim when the key was turned, meaning no draw. > Elle wrote: >> The lights and radio working don't prove that the battery is putting out [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > and the fact the lights didnt even dim when the key was turned, meaning no > draw. Oh, I see your point. > Hi, I have a 91 accord lx with about 165k miles on it. It's been > driving fine for the year I've had it, until this weekend. I drove it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > but when I turned the key, nothing. No clicks, no sounds of turning > over. ignition switch? main relay? igniter? im sure someone here would know :) If you have power at the starter solenoid when the key is turned to the start position then the starter solenoid is bad (and of course no power when not in the start position). If there is no power when in the start position then most likely the ignition switch is bad. >> Hi, I have a 91 accord lx with about 165k miles on it. It's been >> driving fine for the year I've had it, until this weekend. I drove it [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >ignition switch? main relay? igniter? im sure someone here would know :) Thank you every one for your replies. Today we are going to try replacing the ignition switch and go from there. Hopefully that'll get it started. The original failure is interesting enough. Car goes from running to quit, and unresponsive to subsequent start attempts. It's not your alternator (you've checked battery state of charge with your light test), and battery connections have also been ruled out I think. Also, it's not the main relay because failure mode there would not preempt cranking, nor would a bad coil or igniter. I would guess at the ignition switch itself (as you have). Since you're replacing that, I think you'll be all set. But, if not, as nomorergs mentioned, power to the start solenoid is the path to pursue, eventually working your way back to the ignition switch. Again, this wouldn't cause the car to quit though. You should post back with what you figure out. Good luck, Arthur > Hi, I have a 91 accord lx with about 165k miles on it. It's been > driving fine for the year I've had it, until this weekend. I drove it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > hard to get this taken care of without bringing it into a shop, because > of minimal funds. Thanks. |
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